What martal art conditions the wepons of the body,strikes vital points,has a good ground and grapple?defence?

What conditions the wepons of the body and yet has some knowledge of grappling? im thinking about taking wing tsun because of the liner approach but i allways see people get diped by that i mean picked up and then somehow ended up on the ground then there getting pounded on. . .i dont want that to be me. . .but then again i sen gracie get his teqniques used againced him and other grappelers that arnt good on striking. . . i havent really heard anything bad about shotokan karate. . .my friend keeps telling me ninjutsu but the dojo seems like a cult and the seni doesnt seem like hes been teaching long?id want an expierianced teacher in an effective art. . .it also depends of body frame im 5'11 180 i like to use my hands but aknowledge being quick on the feet once a grapple gets you i think its over. . .so what im asking what is a martal art which has a stron defence quick offence and has some aces up the sleeves you know like a secret well rounded ground and grapple. . .No sports please

What martal art conditions the wepons of the body,strikes vital points,has a good ground and grapple?defence?
A good mix is hard to find, wing tsun is a good choice, but you have to find a good school. Another good choice is a school where they teach MMA. I'd also try freestyle karate, as they teach you standing and grappling. I like Shidokan karate alot, they train kyokushen karate striking, muay thai, and grappling, it's called the triathlon of martial arts, and it was founded by one of Mas Oyama's best pupils, as a matter fact the video game street fighter's main character (Ryu) is loosely based on this guy.





If you are going for one art, I'd go for one of those


wing tsun


freestyle karate


MMA


Shidokan Karate
Reply:Jiu-Jitsu sounds like what you're looking for. And they train through dojos and with regulated competition, so you wouldn't get pounded while on the ground (What does that prove anyway?)


Ninjutsu is a legitimate art, but I doubt you'll find many dojos that teach the genuine thing - it's got all these assassin and stealth techniques built into it.
Reply:Vale Tudo
Reply:But you sound like Sport is exactly your interest., you sound as if you are in it already a sport player .Todays world has changed the face of real world self defense, Guns play a major role, ask a cop. Alot of Toughs getting shot.


Talk to your local police dept, you'd be amazed at what they offer. In todays world real world fighting starts with a fist, with a Great Possibility it will end with a Gun. Many I mean Many people today will not hesitate to pull the trigger, the saying was said earlier, Better being taken away by 12 then by 6.


Jiu Jitsu , Judo, etc are Sports


Real World Self Defense has alot more than Hand to Hand


Ask A Marine
Reply:I might be a bit biased as I teach Aikijujutsu, But I feel that Aikijujutsu might be what you are looking for. Good Aikijujutsu has a strong defense and avoidance techniques, fast and powerful striking, stand up grappling, throws, ground fighting, defenses against takedowns and plenty of breaks, real pressure points(not the crazy death touch stuff, just weak points), chokes/strangles, weapon defenses, etc..





I'll also second the other guy who answered just before me, Jujutsu of many types would also fit the bill and has a description similar to the aiki above, but a different feel.





By strong defense, I'm assuming you mean a good avoidance of damage. Other styles such as krav maga and muay thai fit the bill also, but tend to block and absorb a bit more damage than adjusting the range and avoiding the impact. depending on your mindset and body-type, they may also be of interest to you. You mention shotokan, Good shotokan might possibly fit what you are looking for, but it is hard to find, usually you'll get the watered down crap that passes for karate lately unless you are lucky.





Ninjutsu falls in above shotokan by a good margin but is in the same situation. Good if you can find a good school.





Good luck with your search.
Reply:Krav Maga, Akido, Kuntao, Kempo.
Reply:Kajukenbo.
Reply:kajukenbo, it's a well rounded combination
Reply:free style karate and shotokan are very well rounded when it comes to a martial art to use in real life situations,i had the same problem as you, i practiced muay thai for two years and it was great i was able to use it very well but i got screwed whenever i ended on the ground with someone heavier than me,i think that a good martial art for you would be aikijujitsu it has an amazing combination of striking,grappling ground fighting and very effective counters,foget vale tudo and brazilian jiu jitsu,they r good in the ring where the are rules but loose in the real world, i would try enshin karate first or any other form of free style karate first (then try looking into aikijiujitsu to see if u like it) ninjutsu is more than just a martial art, it is about stealth,survival and assassination methods,I doubt that they really teach it every where,karate is definitely more available and u r more likely to find a good and experienced instructor in it (shotokan is also very good if u don t find enshin karate anywhere)
Reply:HAPKIDO