If a pro kickboxer was to learn kung fu, would he beat MMA?

plz no answers about hard work. heres the situation: kung fu teaches grappling, joint locks, kicks, and i dont mean flashy forms but the base of kung fu that is not super flashy but uses tiger claws, elbows, knees... would this guy be able to beat a UFC fighter?











other Q: could he defend himself from a no rule life or death situation against a UFC fighter?





also, plz no answers like just kick him here, or chop him in the neck etc...

If a pro kickboxer was to learn kung fu, would he beat MMA?
I would learn to incorporate Jui Jitsu with it. Kung Fu's grappling is mostly done in a standing position.





I don't know what that guys talking about as far as the "limitations" of MMA. It's the most free style of fighting thats legal.
Reply:A professional kick boxer already been practicing kung fu its called mua thai and plus to much rules in the octagon so they should fly to thailand and see how good those MMA to me they can fight but their are bit to much limitations if i want to see an ultimate go to thailand and watch them fight it all out with no rules thats what i call ultimate fighting.
Reply:No he would not, kung fu ground skills are nowhere close to where they would need to be for a decent MMA-UFC fighter. Kung Fu is based around stand up striking. A kung fu fighter and Muay Thai fighter with equal training would go to Muay Thai fighter every time. A good BJJ fighter against any stand up only fighter would win 9-10 times.
Reply:no because if the fight went to the ground which is extremely probable he would have no clue what to do. it would be like an early ufc match
Reply:I gotta agree with everyone else here. If the fight goes to the ground, the Kung Fu fighter is poorly trained to deal with it. In addition, the fighter is not trained well enough to avoid the takedowns. This is the double whammy. The fighter isn't trained to avoid going to the ground, and isn't trained to fight once on the ground.
Reply:short answer - probably not. But this is due to the lack of traditional kung fu instructors and training that is available today. Most of the sparring you see EVERYWHERE is like a crappy form of kickboxing. It doesn't even look like kung fu! Even shaolin monks today, I hear, are mostly entertainers (but I don't know for sure).





If you change the question to "could someone beat an MMA/UFC fighter on the street with no rules if they received GOOD kung fu training," then I must say the answer is definitely yes. However this is probably not likely to happen because I have not seen a single skilled kung fu fighter besides my instructor (sifu). What does good kung fu look like you ask? Just like it does in Jet Li's modern movies. I know because I've seen it :D Also, you need to realize that MMA is HIGHLY restrictive in terms of what techniques they can or can't use. Although MMA and UCF has plenty of contact and looks like a brutal, bloody sport, it is still a sport nonetheless. Their mindset during punches and joint locks is to get the person to tap out. For example, where ever a UFC fighter will lock a person's arm out to get him into submission, a kung fu fighter will snap it without hesitation. Now you can easily say that the UFC fighter could do exactly the same thing, but the reality is that their mentality is not to kill, and it would be highly unlikely for them to emotionlessly snap someone's arm or break someone's knee in a street situation.





But like I said, these kind of kung fu fighters are rare, and it'd be one in a million to find an instructor capable of such training. People may believe it or not (most won't, but that's okay), but that is their choice to make : P





-GL HF
Reply:I'm going to answer how you don't want me to, because that's how it must be answered. MMA fighters are great only as far as their training is great. If they don't train, they loose. If you're talking someone who takes kung fu classes 3 days a week, and kickboxes another day a week, against an MMA guy who does some kind of floorwork, roadwork, sparring or bagwork every day... the MMA guy will win. No matter what, martial arts are about the quality of the individual. Maps are necessary, but are not the Territory. YOu need a map to get there, but once there, you can get back without one... Style is a roadmap, and is completely unnecessary once you learn the principles. After the principles, which are physical and therefore universal to human beings with 2 arms 2 legs 2 eyes etc... style can be dropped. (What Bruce Lee was alluding to... too bad most of his young students don't bother to learn a style in the first place, they have nothing to forget)
Reply:You better pray that MMA fighter is also afraid to fight on the ground. If not, you'd be in one sticky situation. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is a better supplement.
Reply:learn some BJJ too. a fighter has a chance to win during every fight. No fight is every 100% guaranteed. Look at the last CroCop fight against Gonzaga.
Reply:Not likely, a good MMA fighter would most likely take down the pro kickboxer/kung fu practicioner, and either ground and pound him, or submit him.





Let's not be delutional and see the facts, how many kung fu practitioners are currently fighting in the UFC?





none.





Now if you talk about San Shou, which is how kung fu has evolved for practical uses, then he might have a chance due to it's good standup and throws (it's similar to muay thai, but it enphasizes alot of throwing)





The answer to your second question is also unlikely, MMA fighters are very well-trained for both striking and grappling, they usually do very well in streetfights.