which one of these arts are more violent in your perspective,
when used in a sport situation like the UFC; in the streets (used by one person vs another in an agreed street fight everything goes and both parties know the intentions; when confronted by an assailant and you use one of these arts on them?
Striking arts or grappling arts.?
Striking SEEMS more violent.
In a streetfight (with people with some training), you will hardly see any grappling.
An experienced grappler can brake a bone, and that is pretty violent IMO.
A knockout will always seem more violent though.
just my two cents
Reply:You will have to learn some of both to be able to survive, lets say in the streets of London, Amsterdam, Paris.
In a street or bar fight they will try to out-box you. Then they will grab you round the waist like a rugby player and take you down. (especially in the UK). So you will need both.
I haven't learned much grappling yet....
Reply:Strking arts are more violent in almost all situations because every impact causes damage. The striker has no control over the amont of damage he does other than to pick a target that may be less harmful. He strikes fast and hard. There is blood, tissue injury, unconsciousness, etc.
The grappler smothers the strikers attacking weapons, can immobilize without injury to attacker, and can force him to submit through pain compliance. Yes, he can break bones, dislocate, and choke attacker to death if necessary. But he always has control.
Reply:I don't think you can compare the violence levels. Each fight is unique.
Even when people grapple they still strike in techniques like ground and pound.
So, both fighting styles are violent. Grappling may seem less violent on a first look but when you think about the potentially joint damage and bone breaks that illusion goes away.
Reply:I don't think you're trying to discover comparitive levels of violence, I'm sure you mean the amount of damage caused, right?
90% of fights in MMA competitions (such as the UFC) are won either by knock-out (strike to the head) or by referee decision (by which time both fighters are pretty cut up). I would say striking causes the most damage. Even when the fight is taken to the ground, the "ground and pound" techniques cut the opponent's face to shreds. Especially if it's someone like Matt Hughes or Tito Ortiz. Or David Loaseau from Canada, who has elbows like razor blades... ouch.
Even when you get taken down in a street fight, trying to place an arm or leg lock ain't gonna work. You need to learn "ground striking" (i.e. striking while on your back and learning to stand back up while getting booted in the teeth) rather than grappling. I doubt any BJJ practitioner can apply an arm bar when they're getting a thumb jammed in their eye.
Striking will always prevail over grappling. Always. Sure, Royce Gracie might be one of the greatest grapplers in history, but I doubt he would be so keen to try and tie you up with a peculiar-sounding joint lock when his hair has been grabbed and his head is being slammed repeatedly into a concrete pavement. Or his opponent is biting his fingers off. "Ground striking" not grappling boys and girls.
Reply:Both are as violent as the other, in my perspective.
A striker can drive a persons nose into their skull or break ribs and lodge them into someone lung an or heart if they know what they are doing. Or they could just give them a touch-up letting the other guy know he is out classed.
The grappler can toss a person onto their head and kill them instantly or onto a pole and cause permanent paralysis . Or he can toss them on their back and wind them letting their opponent know this is not the right person to pick ( with the option of catching their head so the are not knocked out)
There is no real "more violent style" every style is violent. It is the intent when you use that skill that makes it "violent" or not.
Reply:Striking. Vi0lence usually refers to the manner in which an attack is made, not in a particular technique itself and is usually fueled by the attacker's emotion(i.e. anger, fear or hatred). And striking lends itself to these emotions much more easily than grappling. Which is why more people find satisfaction smashing something til it breaks over merely choking or twisting it.
Reply:In the UFC, obviously striking is more "violent", if we're assuming "violent" correlates to "damaging". Most fighters submit long before actual damage is done to their joints when grappling, but few will throw in the towel until they've been cut up so badly it'll take a plastic surgeon years to repair their face.
In the street or when confronted by an assailant, both are fairly equal. A true self-defense situation forces your brain, the most important muscle used in self-defense, to utilize techniques at killing speed, power, and on targets that you'd not normall attack in sparring, ie. groin, eyes, spine, back of head, knee cap, elbow, etc. This happens in both striking and grappling, though, as a striker will defend himself by kicking hard and fast to a kneecap, shattering it, but a grappler would throw a kimura lock (from standing, no doubt) on an attacker and wrench it well past the normal "submission" point in the same situation. This would tear the attacker's rotator cuff completely apart in less than a second.
Also, grappler might neutralize an attacker who is striking by shooting and taking them down to the ground, sending their head through concrete, tabletops, chairs, whatever. This doesn't happen in a ring because there are no furniture or concrete pads in the cage/ring. So, obviously, even something as simple as a takedown (which can also happen in a split second) can be deadly. Seriously, anyone who thinks a grappler is not prepared to utterly destroy an attacker in a self defense situation is delusional. Just because grapplers don't break their sparring partners or opponents arms, legs, and neck everyday doesn't mean they don't realize how to do it.
So, basically, anything can be "violent" in the street or when attacked by an assailant. But I would have to say that the poor guy who attacks most MMA fighters is going to be a sight to see in the hospital: rotator cuff torn and his arm dangling limply, face shattered from knees, kneecap ripped apart from roundhouse kicks, or ligature marks from the rear naked choke that put him to sleep, almost permanently.
Reply:i do kenpo and jujitsu so i have a view on both...they both can be very violent do not underestimate either one
Reply:They can be equally violent depending on how they are used.
Reply:In any self-defense situation you must have striking. The ring-style of fighting arts will get you killed in a street fight.
But even Morehei Ueyshiba, the founder of Aikido, stated that all fighting is 90% atemi (striking).
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Sunday, April 26, 2009
Sims 2 Castaway: Grappling hook?
I have it and all but i dont know where to use it????
Sims 2 Castaway: Grappling hook?
huh. I LOVE THE S*IMS
Sims 2 Castaway: Grappling hook?
huh. I LOVE THE S*IMS
I ma learnign grappling on my own?
what would you suggest would be a good way to improve my restraining and takedowns, i do nto wnat ot go to dojos, i want to do it freelance. I know i can
I ma learnign grappling on my own?
I do not think it is possible to learn these things on your own. You need someone to practice with. How will you know your techniques work without someone to try them on? And a qualified instructor is very important. He will correct your mistakes and teach you the proper way to execute your techniques. Your instructor is also there to make sure you do not get hurt while training.
Reply:First work very, very hard on conditioning, cause thats what can win fights in the 3rd round.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwR2fQhr5...
Make sure you got strenght to take down an opponent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq7Kdv0RH...
dude your like me i don't want to go to a gym %26amp; have a sweaty fat guy on me i do the first workout %26amp; it help me alot.
I ma learnign grappling on my own?
I do not think it is possible to learn these things on your own. You need someone to practice with. How will you know your techniques work without someone to try them on? And a qualified instructor is very important. He will correct your mistakes and teach you the proper way to execute your techniques. Your instructor is also there to make sure you do not get hurt while training.
Reply:First work very, very hard on conditioning, cause thats what can win fights in the 3rd round.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwR2fQhr5...
Make sure you got strenght to take down an opponent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq7Kdv0RH...
dude your like me i don't want to go to a gym %26amp; have a sweaty fat guy on me i do the first workout %26amp; it help me alot.
Core strenght for Grappling?
What do you guys do for it and how important do you think it is?
Core strenght for Grappling?
It is very important as it gives us the power to overcome larger opponants. It isn't just that a grapplers arm is stronger it is the way we use our whole body to leverage the power. Along with technique as well.
It isn't something you can just go to a gym and learn. You have to train in a grappling style like Judo, JuJitsu or Wrestling.
You can gain strength from weight lifting and mimicing warm up excercises as mentioned previously but unless you actually get out there and train for a few months in art it self you will not be able to replicate the power that grapplers naturally gain from our training.
A typical warm up for me would be running laps around the mat (forwards, backwards, sidestep, knees/heals up...) Then we do a suicide type excercise where we sprint from one side of the mat to the other and back then do 1 push-up then we repeat doing 2 the next then 3 and so on once we hit 5 we count back down to 1. So total sprints 9 up and back. 25 push-ups. Then we will stretch out our legs, backs arms etc... Then we do a series of back and stomach excercises usually various bridging techniques. After that we do breakfalls...
So our warm up alone is 15 minutes then we train for 70-90 minutes and anyone who has trained in Judo or Jujitsu will tell you that there isn't any rest periods and it is 100% physical and full contact.
So I highly recomend you train in a style. Even if it is only once a week or so. It will make all the difference and you will see an extreme improvement in your power, more than you would with weights or some other martial arts.
Reply:Very important. we do bridging exercises and lifting weights/dummies/each other all with a swinging or twisting motion to duplicate a throw.
Get a barbell, weight on one end only. Put the other end on the ground, preferably jammed into a corner somewhere. Swing it side to side with arms outstretched.
Bicep curls but with an uppercut motion extending the arms and loading and pushing up with the legs at the same time.
Lunge forward doing the same thing.
Get front waistlock on your partner(like for chest to chest suplex) and do the old fifties dance move. Lift him and swing him from side to side and squat as he swings in , so he rests on one leg then the other the next time.
Bridging exercises. Back bridge onto neck, grab a weight or kettlebell and do tricep extensions and crossovers with the weight while in bridge position.
The list goes on and on.
Reply:I do a judo exercise called the ebi or shrimp motion with weights on my ankles and in my hands.
I do free grappling practice with my friend for escaping hold downs/chokes (works your core best with someone heavier than you)
I do what I call the bench roll. You load up the middle of an ajustible dumbell to about 20 lbs to start. Sit on the end of an incline bench and bowing forward at the hips keeping your arms straight, roll the weight up the incline bench. This is an exercise I made up myself, and it works WONDERS!!
Have fun, Train smart, Train hard!
Reply:work up your upper body weight lifting, pushups, sit ups, just about anythings good
sole slippers
Core strenght for Grappling?
It is very important as it gives us the power to overcome larger opponants. It isn't just that a grapplers arm is stronger it is the way we use our whole body to leverage the power. Along with technique as well.
It isn't something you can just go to a gym and learn. You have to train in a grappling style like Judo, JuJitsu or Wrestling.
You can gain strength from weight lifting and mimicing warm up excercises as mentioned previously but unless you actually get out there and train for a few months in art it self you will not be able to replicate the power that grapplers naturally gain from our training.
A typical warm up for me would be running laps around the mat (forwards, backwards, sidestep, knees/heals up...) Then we do a suicide type excercise where we sprint from one side of the mat to the other and back then do 1 push-up then we repeat doing 2 the next then 3 and so on once we hit 5 we count back down to 1. So total sprints 9 up and back. 25 push-ups. Then we will stretch out our legs, backs arms etc... Then we do a series of back and stomach excercises usually various bridging techniques. After that we do breakfalls...
So our warm up alone is 15 minutes then we train for 70-90 minutes and anyone who has trained in Judo or Jujitsu will tell you that there isn't any rest periods and it is 100% physical and full contact.
So I highly recomend you train in a style. Even if it is only once a week or so. It will make all the difference and you will see an extreme improvement in your power, more than you would with weights or some other martial arts.
Reply:Very important. we do bridging exercises and lifting weights/dummies/each other all with a swinging or twisting motion to duplicate a throw.
Get a barbell, weight on one end only. Put the other end on the ground, preferably jammed into a corner somewhere. Swing it side to side with arms outstretched.
Bicep curls but with an uppercut motion extending the arms and loading and pushing up with the legs at the same time.
Lunge forward doing the same thing.
Get front waistlock on your partner(like for chest to chest suplex) and do the old fifties dance move. Lift him and swing him from side to side and squat as he swings in , so he rests on one leg then the other the next time.
Bridging exercises. Back bridge onto neck, grab a weight or kettlebell and do tricep extensions and crossovers with the weight while in bridge position.
The list goes on and on.
Reply:I do a judo exercise called the ebi or shrimp motion with weights on my ankles and in my hands.
I do free grappling practice with my friend for escaping hold downs/chokes (works your core best with someone heavier than you)
I do what I call the bench roll. You load up the middle of an ajustible dumbell to about 20 lbs to start. Sit on the end of an incline bench and bowing forward at the hips keeping your arms straight, roll the weight up the incline bench. This is an exercise I made up myself, and it works WONDERS!!
Have fun, Train smart, Train hard!
Reply:work up your upper body weight lifting, pushups, sit ups, just about anythings good
sole slippers
Aren't grappling hooks the coolest?
Thoughts?
Aren't grappling hooks the coolest?
You know what's cooler? The weapon that Scorpion from Mortal Kombat has. He shoots out a small spearhead with a rope attached and the spearhead stabs the victim, and pulls the victim closer to him. Then he can just beat them up.
Reply:??? What a random question. But yea i think they're awesome!
Aren't grappling hooks the coolest?
You know what's cooler? The weapon that Scorpion from Mortal Kombat has. He shoots out a small spearhead with a rope attached and the spearhead stabs the victim, and pulls the victim closer to him. Then he can just beat them up.
Reply:??? What a random question. But yea i think they're awesome!
What is grappling?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grappling
What is grappling?
wrestling....actual on the ground, wrestling....not wwe baloney
Reply:Wrestling
Reply:It's like wrestling, but it's usually the part of martial arts training that deals with wrestling, especially when both ppl are on the ground and in very close quarters.
Reply:Grappling is based on Brazilian Jujitsu. It is a form of ground fighting based on chokeholds, pressure points and submission holds.
Reply:Grappling refers to the gripping, handling and controlling of an opponent without the use of striking, typically through the application of various grappling holds. A grappler is a person who predominantly practices grappling in martial arts or combat sports. Grappling can be used in both a standing position, where it is known as stand-up grappling, and on the ground, where it is known as ground grappling. Grappling is an essential part of both clinch fighting and ground fighting.
Reply:1.
1. An iron shaft with claws at one end, usually thrown by a rope and used for grasping and holding, especially one for drawing and holding an enemy ship alongside. Also called grapnel, grappling, grappling hook, grappling iron.
2. Nautical. See grapnel.
2. The act of grappling.
3.
1. A struggle or contest in which the participants attempt to clutch or grip each other.
2. A struggle for superiority or dominance.
v. grap·pled, grap·pling, grap·ples
v. tr.
1. To seize and hold, as with a grapple.
2. To seize firmly, as with the hands.
v. intr.
1. To hold onto something with or as if with a grapple.
2. To use a grapple or similar device, as for dragging.
3. To struggle, in or as if in wrestling: grappled with their consciences; grapple with the political realities of our time.
[Middle English grapel, from Old French grapil, diminutive of grape, hook. See grape.]
Reply:Grappling with a decision means going over it and worrying about it.
Reply:wrestling
Reply:Wrestling. Wrestlers are sometimes called "grapplers."
Reply:It may be a sport but the first thing that pops into my mind is "struggling"
Reply:Grappling is a part of the mat wrestling style. It's when the opponents are "locking up" while still on their feet.
Reply:Grappling is another word for wrestling. Real wrestling. Judo, Sambo,Sumo, and Budo are various types of grappling. It simply means to tussle and control an opponent with a lock or hold. Boxers, when they clinch, come dangerously close to grappling, something not allowed in boxing. (Or karate or Kung Fu)...It is also used in colloquial speech to refer to "grappling or wrestling" with issues, moral, political, financial, etc. In that sense it comes close to being a figure of speech. We can imagine the problem being the other wrestler, and our minds, representing us, trying to deal with the problem as a wrestlers deals with an opponent. Grapplers are wrestlers!
Reply:As per my American Heritage Dictionary Grappling : To use an iron shaft with claws at one end, especially one used for drawing an enemy ship alongside. To seize and hold fast. To grasp or grip frimly as in wrestling. To struggle emotionally (an example would br grappling with one's conscience).
Reply:grappling is a hand to hand fighting form
Reply:grabbing and holding on in wrestling.
Reply:wrestling
boots
What is grappling?
wrestling....actual on the ground, wrestling....not wwe baloney
Reply:Wrestling
Reply:It's like wrestling, but it's usually the part of martial arts training that deals with wrestling, especially when both ppl are on the ground and in very close quarters.
Reply:Grappling is based on Brazilian Jujitsu. It is a form of ground fighting based on chokeholds, pressure points and submission holds.
Reply:Grappling refers to the gripping, handling and controlling of an opponent without the use of striking, typically through the application of various grappling holds. A grappler is a person who predominantly practices grappling in martial arts or combat sports. Grappling can be used in both a standing position, where it is known as stand-up grappling, and on the ground, where it is known as ground grappling. Grappling is an essential part of both clinch fighting and ground fighting.
Reply:1.
1. An iron shaft with claws at one end, usually thrown by a rope and used for grasping and holding, especially one for drawing and holding an enemy ship alongside. Also called grapnel, grappling, grappling hook, grappling iron.
2. Nautical. See grapnel.
2. The act of grappling.
3.
1. A struggle or contest in which the participants attempt to clutch or grip each other.
2. A struggle for superiority or dominance.
v. grap·pled, grap·pling, grap·ples
v. tr.
1. To seize and hold, as with a grapple.
2. To seize firmly, as with the hands.
v. intr.
1. To hold onto something with or as if with a grapple.
2. To use a grapple or similar device, as for dragging.
3. To struggle, in or as if in wrestling: grappled with their consciences; grapple with the political realities of our time.
[Middle English grapel, from Old French grapil, diminutive of grape, hook. See grape.]
Reply:Grappling with a decision means going over it and worrying about it.
Reply:wrestling
Reply:Wrestling. Wrestlers are sometimes called "grapplers."
Reply:It may be a sport but the first thing that pops into my mind is "struggling"
Reply:Grappling is a part of the mat wrestling style. It's when the opponents are "locking up" while still on their feet.
Reply:Grappling is another word for wrestling. Real wrestling. Judo, Sambo,Sumo, and Budo are various types of grappling. It simply means to tussle and control an opponent with a lock or hold. Boxers, when they clinch, come dangerously close to grappling, something not allowed in boxing. (Or karate or Kung Fu)...It is also used in colloquial speech to refer to "grappling or wrestling" with issues, moral, political, financial, etc. In that sense it comes close to being a figure of speech. We can imagine the problem being the other wrestler, and our minds, representing us, trying to deal with the problem as a wrestlers deals with an opponent. Grapplers are wrestlers!
Reply:As per my American Heritage Dictionary Grappling : To use an iron shaft with claws at one end, especially one used for drawing an enemy ship alongside. To seize and hold fast. To grasp or grip frimly as in wrestling. To struggle emotionally (an example would br grappling with one's conscience).
Reply:grappling is a hand to hand fighting form
Reply:grabbing and holding on in wrestling.
Reply:wrestling
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Wrestling/grappling at home?
I'm 24. 5'4 straight guy. From Belfast Northern Ireland. I'm a Bit disabled. But very active. I love Wrestling and love music, singing, movies and trying anything. Who wants to be my friend?
Wrestling/grappling at home?
Sure.
Reply:Hell, why not?! Sure chief.
Reply:yeah sure.
Reply:sure bud
Wrestling/grappling at home?
Sure.
Reply:Hell, why not?! Sure chief.
Reply:yeah sure.
Reply:sure bud
Cheap Grappling Training near Norcross, GA?
I used to do judo, now I really need a place to train. I'm a student though so anything more than 70ish is going to be a problem. I don't really care about anything else besides price and location, so training out of somebody's garage isn't going to bother me. Any leads? And yes wrestling season at my HS is over.
Cheap Grappling Training near Norcross, GA?
Gracie Barra at K.O. Sports in Kennesaw. I pay $70 a month. It may be too far for you, but it's probably some of the best bjj intstruction you can get in the southeast.
Cheap Grappling Training near Norcross, GA?
Gracie Barra at K.O. Sports in Kennesaw. I pay $70 a month. It may be too far for you, but it's probably some of the best bjj intstruction you can get in the southeast.
Back Grappling Can Hurt You?
http://www.psfights.com/fight-video-418....
Randori Free Play can be Dangerous
Agreed?
Back Grappling Can Hurt You?
of course it can, thats kinda the point, not to get hurt but to learn about the dangerous situations. people get hurt playing all sports even golf(not like that but still), it can happen anytime your moving your whole body aggressively. but it's still the best way to learn how to fight, really the only way. and you do get used to it, after 12 years i see peoples elbows snap, shoulders dislocate, knees twisted till ligiments tear and i don't even blink
Reply:martial arts sucks!
JOIN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE MARTIAL ARTS SECTION!
WRESTLING
SECTION
UNITED!
Reply:yes absolutely... wow that made me think of my simple joint locks that cuased me pain look like NOTHING...wow im never going to complain agian ^^lol
yes i agree, grappling can be VERY dangerous
Reply:Any martial art can be dangerous......regardless of what type it is.
An errant punch to the throat can crush the windpipe can have a worse result than getting your back broken.
Reply:whats your point?
thanks for the vid though.
Reply:Ow... no matter how many injury vids I see they still make me cringe. Will it stop me from training? Hell no :)
Randori Free Play can be Dangerous
Agreed?
Back Grappling Can Hurt You?
of course it can, thats kinda the point, not to get hurt but to learn about the dangerous situations. people get hurt playing all sports even golf(not like that but still), it can happen anytime your moving your whole body aggressively. but it's still the best way to learn how to fight, really the only way. and you do get used to it, after 12 years i see peoples elbows snap, shoulders dislocate, knees twisted till ligiments tear and i don't even blink
Reply:martial arts sucks!
JOIN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE MARTIAL ARTS SECTION!
WRESTLING
SECTION
UNITED!
Reply:yes absolutely... wow that made me think of my simple joint locks that cuased me pain look like NOTHING...wow im never going to complain agian ^^lol
yes i agree, grappling can be VERY dangerous
Reply:Any martial art can be dangerous......regardless of what type it is.
An errant punch to the throat can crush the windpipe can have a worse result than getting your back broken.
Reply:whats your point?
thanks for the vid though.
Reply:Ow... no matter how many injury vids I see they still make me cringe. Will it stop me from training? Hell no :)
Wrestling/Grappling at home?
I'm 24. 5'4 straight guy. From Belfast Northern Ireland. I'm a Bit disabled. But very active. I love Wrestling and love music, singing, movies and trying anything. Who wants to be my friend?
Wrestling/Grappling at home?
Have you got some sort of fetish? This is the third question of this type that you have posted.
Reply:Try being people's 'fans' on here, it's a good way to make friends, or try a different site.
rubber slippers
Wrestling/Grappling at home?
Have you got some sort of fetish? This is the third question of this type that you have posted.
Reply:Try being people's 'fans' on here, it's a good way to make friends, or try a different site.
rubber slippers
Submission Grappling Fans, what sort of match do you most enjoy to see?
Do you prefer to watch a match up between small, quick, light-weight opponents? Do you prefer a match with the heavy hitters -- big guys and/or gals who are well matched with each other for size but who do bring a lot of size into the game? Do you prefer a technical match? Do you prefer a less technical "struggle" sort of match? What floats your boat?
Submission Grappling Fans, what sort of match do you most enjoy to see?
I do like technical matches. However, the light-weight wrestlers are more able to mix up their game more and do moves much quicker.
Reply:Cabellera contra mascara, or shall I say "hair vs. mask".
Reply:i like to see good inferno and hell in a cell matches
Submission Grappling Fans, what sort of match do you most enjoy to see?
I do like technical matches. However, the light-weight wrestlers are more able to mix up their game more and do moves much quicker.
Reply:Cabellera contra mascara, or shall I say "hair vs. mask".
Reply:i like to see good inferno and hell in a cell matches
Best grappling Martial Arts?
My personal opinion is very similar to the first response you received here.
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Judo
Russian Sambo
Greco-roman/Freestyle Wrestling
Those are probably the big four in the grappling arts. Jiu Jitsu and Russian Sambo are heavily based on take-downs and submissions. Judo is also primarily submission based, but it focuses more on a throwing style of take-downs and emphasizes chokes and a whole myriad of joint locks. Greco-roman/Freestyle wrestling's major use is for take-downs and pinning your opponent; this is not very useful or realistic for a life-or-death combat situation, but it is very good practice when put into play as mixture with the other grappling arts mentioned.
I personally practice Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and use it mainly for MMA purposes. I, however, have learned the basics of all these grappling arts and I utilize them when necessary in a grappling competition. If it were a street fight, all of the submissions could be useful if you continued to apply them even after your opponent tapped. This would severely disable them. I don't think there is one true answer to your question as to which art is the BEST, as all of the mentioned are extremely effective.
Best grappling Martial Arts?
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Greco Roman wrestling, Sambo and Judo.
Reply:most people would say BJJ and they are partially right but woouldn't it make more sense for a "real fighting" situation to learn how to throw(judo) and how to deliver deadly strikes on the ground rather than just knowing how to "lock up" and go far an arm bar? i believe there is no true martial art there is someting to be learned from all styles except maybe the Drunken Style of Kung FU ...HHEHEHE
Reply:i just can't say which is best,
but i think a combination of maybe, judo throws, wrestling takedowns, and bjj finishing moves would be an excellent arsenal of ground techniques.. but to study all is another story.. lol..
~*winkz*~
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Judo
Russian Sambo
Greco-roman/Freestyle Wrestling
Those are probably the big four in the grappling arts. Jiu Jitsu and Russian Sambo are heavily based on take-downs and submissions. Judo is also primarily submission based, but it focuses more on a throwing style of take-downs and emphasizes chokes and a whole myriad of joint locks. Greco-roman/Freestyle wrestling's major use is for take-downs and pinning your opponent; this is not very useful or realistic for a life-or-death combat situation, but it is very good practice when put into play as mixture with the other grappling arts mentioned.
I personally practice Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and use it mainly for MMA purposes. I, however, have learned the basics of all these grappling arts and I utilize them when necessary in a grappling competition. If it were a street fight, all of the submissions could be useful if you continued to apply them even after your opponent tapped. This would severely disable them. I don't think there is one true answer to your question as to which art is the BEST, as all of the mentioned are extremely effective.
Best grappling Martial Arts?
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Greco Roman wrestling, Sambo and Judo.
Reply:most people would say BJJ and they are partially right but woouldn't it make more sense for a "real fighting" situation to learn how to throw(judo) and how to deliver deadly strikes on the ground rather than just knowing how to "lock up" and go far an arm bar? i believe there is no true martial art there is someting to be learned from all styles except maybe the Drunken Style of Kung FU ...HHEHEHE
Reply:i just can't say which is best,
but i think a combination of maybe, judo throws, wrestling takedowns, and bjj finishing moves would be an excellent arsenal of ground techniques.. but to study all is another story.. lol..
~*winkz*~
Grappling or Striking Martial Arts on the street?
Which works best on the street?
Grappling or Striking Martial Arts on the street?
That depends on all factors at hand. Are there multiple oppenents, if so u want to move to one and the other as quickly as possible and avoid being tangled up grappling with one. Also depends on the practioner, you would want to use something that works for you. If your oppenet has a weapon and you had no other option but to fight, I would think that striking would be better there too. But mainly it comes down to the person useing the techniques. What they feel fits them and is more comfortable with, how much training they put into it and so forth.
Reply:Striking if they have friends grappling if not
Reply:too many options to say which is best. "On the street" could mean grass, concrete, glass, trash strewn alleyway littered with broken objects, etc. It could also mean 1-on-1, against many opponents, with weapons, without weapons, etc. All of those options and combinations mean different ways to take on the fight. The only thing that stays the same from one self-defense situation to the next is that the ultimate mission of self-defense is to escape the situation as quickly as possible, before the fight escalates to fatal consequences for yourself or any people with you.
That said, I'd rather know how to fight at every range, angle and position, than know how to fight at one. Striking or grappling only makes one very predicatable, and gives your opponent the chance to take you out of your element. A trained striker and stand-up only fighter who is taken down to the ground can have limbs broken or be killed in a scant handful of seconds because they aren't used to the position. The same can be said, though, for a trained grappler who is made to stand up and take strikes. It can take only seconds for a striker to dispatch a grappler with a broken knee and then a cracked skull.
Ultimately, training all aspects of fighting is the best bet: striking, grappling, takedowns and takedown defenses, kicks, punches, elbows, knees, chokes, joint locks, throws. Every aspect of a fight adds one more tool to your toolbelt, and the more tools you have the better off you are.
Reply:It all depends how strong you are in grappling and striking.If I got into a street fight I would go with striking.
Reply:Without a doubt, striking.
It may come to the ground but you DO NOT want to be there. If you are standing up you can run away. You can cope with multiple opponents. In the ground in a street fight you can expect all sorts of debris (like broken glass, rocks, dirt in your eyes).
Reply:It depends on what happens. Just like other posters said above, it depends on the situation at hand.
For one thing, you do NOT want to end up on the ground in any fight. It's good to know how to fight on the ground, but in a real street fight, that's dangerous for you, as you could get cut, get something in your eye, or get the soul stomped out of you. Not good.
As others said, striking would be the best. If someone grabs you, don't stand there and wrestle with him, headbutt that son of a piss or bite him or something. You always have to be one step ahead of the opponent ya know.
Reply:My martial arts instructor used to be a bouncer at one of those "bad" bars where bikers drink. According to him, every fight he witnessed was over in a matter of seconds. Fists are thrown, there is no room for manueverability, and whoever is the better with his fists will put the other person on the ground.
There are no rules in street fights. That's what makes it much more unpredictable than competitive arts.
I will say that discipline aways trumps raw ability. But discipline comes in many forms, so don't go into a bar expecting to easily beat the Hell's Angel biker who considers a little jail time to be an adequate payoff for stomping a mudhole in someone.
There is no one best art that works consistently on the street, unless you consider pulling a gun on someone an art. Martial arts are just not used often enough for there to be a clear dominator in real fights. Your best bet is to study different arts, get an idea for each of the teachings of the various arts, and build your own. In addition, do not neglect the physical training aspect of it, as Bruce Lee taught. Bruce Lee placed much emphasis on the arms and Abdomen, though you want a well rounded workout routine.
Reply:The question that I have for some of these people is why do they keep bringing up "multiple" opponents. That leads me to believe that 1) they are out causing trouble or 2) they are motivated by a phantom incident that may never happen.
I personally think learning both is most helpful. However, against a good street fighter or bar fight, neither likes to be taken down to the ground.
Therefore some sort of grappling would be most effective.
Good streetfighters, especially blacks (not being racist) have been known to beat down so-called black belts.
Reply:I've done security work that became physical. Striking - HARD - is the way to go. Make them wonder where their next breath is coming from with a solid punch/elbow to the solar plexus. Kick shins and ankles to take their balance and cause deep injury.
I've had to help partners that went to the ground and it isn't pretty for either of the people on the ground. It's not at all like landing or working on a ring, mat or dojo floor. In the real world where there isn't a ref and tap-outs don't mean crap, single opponent or not, try to stay off the ground.
Reply:Striking. Grappling takes too much effort and you don't want to be on the ground. Check out Krav Maga
Reply:Depends on what you call grappling. Is a Standing Wrist Lock or Standing armbar grappling. is Throwing someone to the ground and keeping youself standing grappling.
If so then they can both be effective. If your thinking of Grapping purely as a way to fight once both of you are on the ground then striking is your answer.
They can both be effective or not depending on the situation.
Reply:In a self-defense situation options are good. Just try to escape unharmed. Sometimes that means being aggressive and sometimes passive. Sometimes you grapple sometimes you strike. Grappling doesn't' always consist of going to the ground. Standing grapples can be effective and help lead to devastating strikes.
Also, the word "fight" implies it is a willing situation, one where you choose to engage in physical combat. Self-defense is far more serious than a fight because you are given no choice to walk away. In a self-defense situation you do what you must to survive, in a fight you just back away watching the other person/people to ensure it doesn't escalate to a self-defense situation.
Really, your training methods outweigh your style.
Reply:Forget about what they do in the ring or cage. Kick or grab them by the nuts and hurt them good. I knew a guy who was about 5'-9" tall and weighed around 165 lbs who never lost a fight. He always kicked them in the nuts and then gave them the boot while they were down.He whipped some of the biggest and toughest guys in town. Only one time he missed the guys nuts and they fough for about 30 minutes until he finally did get him in the nuts. Forget about the rules in a street fight or you're going to lose. Punch out the eyeballs, break fingers, choke hold them until they go to sleep, anything to hurt them. I've seen girls put guys down and in severe pain by kicking him in his balls and they could have really messed them up while down but didn't. Hurt them bad so they won't come back after you.
Reply:-one on one grapple. just keep in mind that it would be a risk to shoot in (look it up, its a wrestling move) some body, while fighting on concrete or something like that.
-more than one person, strike. maneuver around and try to keep one opponent in front of another. WHY, so one will not have to fight many at a time. get caught in the middle and you'll get a beat down. It's like using another person for a shield.
-its not smart to just be all about striking or all about grappling. try to be skilled at the two.
-On Multiple opponents, Akido has an interesting way of dealing with this. They don't use much strikes, when fighting a lot of people. I cant explain how they fight against many people, because i don't do Akido. From what i have saw, for multiple people i suggest Akido.
Grappling or Striking Martial Arts on the street?
That depends on all factors at hand. Are there multiple oppenents, if so u want to move to one and the other as quickly as possible and avoid being tangled up grappling with one. Also depends on the practioner, you would want to use something that works for you. If your oppenet has a weapon and you had no other option but to fight, I would think that striking would be better there too. But mainly it comes down to the person useing the techniques. What they feel fits them and is more comfortable with, how much training they put into it and so forth.
Reply:Striking if they have friends grappling if not
Reply:too many options to say which is best. "On the street" could mean grass, concrete, glass, trash strewn alleyway littered with broken objects, etc. It could also mean 1-on-1, against many opponents, with weapons, without weapons, etc. All of those options and combinations mean different ways to take on the fight. The only thing that stays the same from one self-defense situation to the next is that the ultimate mission of self-defense is to escape the situation as quickly as possible, before the fight escalates to fatal consequences for yourself or any people with you.
That said, I'd rather know how to fight at every range, angle and position, than know how to fight at one. Striking or grappling only makes one very predicatable, and gives your opponent the chance to take you out of your element. A trained striker and stand-up only fighter who is taken down to the ground can have limbs broken or be killed in a scant handful of seconds because they aren't used to the position. The same can be said, though, for a trained grappler who is made to stand up and take strikes. It can take only seconds for a striker to dispatch a grappler with a broken knee and then a cracked skull.
Ultimately, training all aspects of fighting is the best bet: striking, grappling, takedowns and takedown defenses, kicks, punches, elbows, knees, chokes, joint locks, throws. Every aspect of a fight adds one more tool to your toolbelt, and the more tools you have the better off you are.
Reply:It all depends how strong you are in grappling and striking.If I got into a street fight I would go with striking.
Reply:Without a doubt, striking.
It may come to the ground but you DO NOT want to be there. If you are standing up you can run away. You can cope with multiple opponents. In the ground in a street fight you can expect all sorts of debris (like broken glass, rocks, dirt in your eyes).
Reply:It depends on what happens. Just like other posters said above, it depends on the situation at hand.
For one thing, you do NOT want to end up on the ground in any fight. It's good to know how to fight on the ground, but in a real street fight, that's dangerous for you, as you could get cut, get something in your eye, or get the soul stomped out of you. Not good.
As others said, striking would be the best. If someone grabs you, don't stand there and wrestle with him, headbutt that son of a piss or bite him or something. You always have to be one step ahead of the opponent ya know.
Reply:My martial arts instructor used to be a bouncer at one of those "bad" bars where bikers drink. According to him, every fight he witnessed was over in a matter of seconds. Fists are thrown, there is no room for manueverability, and whoever is the better with his fists will put the other person on the ground.
There are no rules in street fights. That's what makes it much more unpredictable than competitive arts.
I will say that discipline aways trumps raw ability. But discipline comes in many forms, so don't go into a bar expecting to easily beat the Hell's Angel biker who considers a little jail time to be an adequate payoff for stomping a mudhole in someone.
There is no one best art that works consistently on the street, unless you consider pulling a gun on someone an art. Martial arts are just not used often enough for there to be a clear dominator in real fights. Your best bet is to study different arts, get an idea for each of the teachings of the various arts, and build your own. In addition, do not neglect the physical training aspect of it, as Bruce Lee taught. Bruce Lee placed much emphasis on the arms and Abdomen, though you want a well rounded workout routine.
Reply:The question that I have for some of these people is why do they keep bringing up "multiple" opponents. That leads me to believe that 1) they are out causing trouble or 2) they are motivated by a phantom incident that may never happen.
I personally think learning both is most helpful. However, against a good street fighter or bar fight, neither likes to be taken down to the ground.
Therefore some sort of grappling would be most effective.
Good streetfighters, especially blacks (not being racist) have been known to beat down so-called black belts.
Reply:I've done security work that became physical. Striking - HARD - is the way to go. Make them wonder where their next breath is coming from with a solid punch/elbow to the solar plexus. Kick shins and ankles to take their balance and cause deep injury.
I've had to help partners that went to the ground and it isn't pretty for either of the people on the ground. It's not at all like landing or working on a ring, mat or dojo floor. In the real world where there isn't a ref and tap-outs don't mean crap, single opponent or not, try to stay off the ground.
Reply:Striking. Grappling takes too much effort and you don't want to be on the ground. Check out Krav Maga
Reply:Depends on what you call grappling. Is a Standing Wrist Lock or Standing armbar grappling. is Throwing someone to the ground and keeping youself standing grappling.
If so then they can both be effective. If your thinking of Grapping purely as a way to fight once both of you are on the ground then striking is your answer.
They can both be effective or not depending on the situation.
Reply:In a self-defense situation options are good. Just try to escape unharmed. Sometimes that means being aggressive and sometimes passive. Sometimes you grapple sometimes you strike. Grappling doesn't' always consist of going to the ground. Standing grapples can be effective and help lead to devastating strikes.
Also, the word "fight" implies it is a willing situation, one where you choose to engage in physical combat. Self-defense is far more serious than a fight because you are given no choice to walk away. In a self-defense situation you do what you must to survive, in a fight you just back away watching the other person/people to ensure it doesn't escalate to a self-defense situation.
Really, your training methods outweigh your style.
Reply:Forget about what they do in the ring or cage. Kick or grab them by the nuts and hurt them good. I knew a guy who was about 5'-9" tall and weighed around 165 lbs who never lost a fight. He always kicked them in the nuts and then gave them the boot while they were down.He whipped some of the biggest and toughest guys in town. Only one time he missed the guys nuts and they fough for about 30 minutes until he finally did get him in the nuts. Forget about the rules in a street fight or you're going to lose. Punch out the eyeballs, break fingers, choke hold them until they go to sleep, anything to hurt them. I've seen girls put guys down and in severe pain by kicking him in his balls and they could have really messed them up while down but didn't. Hurt them bad so they won't come back after you.
Reply:-one on one grapple. just keep in mind that it would be a risk to shoot in (look it up, its a wrestling move) some body, while fighting on concrete or something like that.
-more than one person, strike. maneuver around and try to keep one opponent in front of another. WHY, so one will not have to fight many at a time. get caught in the middle and you'll get a beat down. It's like using another person for a shield.
-its not smart to just be all about striking or all about grappling. try to be skilled at the two.
-On Multiple opponents, Akido has an interesting way of dealing with this. They don't use much strikes, when fighting a lot of people. I cant explain how they fight against many people, because i don't do Akido. From what i have saw, for multiple people i suggest Akido.
Grappling Dummy- should i get one to help improve my BJJ skills?
I want to practice BJJ drills on my own when a partner is not available. Are these expensive $500+ dummies worth it?
If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good one to buy?
Grappling Dummy- should i get one to help improve my BJJ skills?
It depends what kind of money you're working with. Grappling dummies can help to get the motion of a difficult technique down, MUCH longer than any live parter would let you. They don't provide any resistance though. If I could afford one, I'd get one. *shrug*
Reply:www.realdoll.com
Reply:I don't think you need to buy one. You can make your own with some dowel rods, impact foam (you can get the stuff from carpet retailers. just ask for their scraps.), and duct tape. It won't be fancy and pretty like the ones in the magazines, but you'll save about $490.
Besides, you just plain can't beat having a live rolling partner to practice on. Of course, that's not always a reasonable expectation, but hey, it's worth mentioning.
Reply:I made my own and yes they are OK
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If anyone has experience with these, what would be a good one to buy?
Grappling Dummy- should i get one to help improve my BJJ skills?
It depends what kind of money you're working with. Grappling dummies can help to get the motion of a difficult technique down, MUCH longer than any live parter would let you. They don't provide any resistance though. If I could afford one, I'd get one. *shrug*
Reply:www.realdoll.com
Reply:I don't think you need to buy one. You can make your own with some dowel rods, impact foam (you can get the stuff from carpet retailers. just ask for their scraps.), and duct tape. It won't be fancy and pretty like the ones in the magazines, but you'll save about $490.
Besides, you just plain can't beat having a live rolling partner to practice on. Of course, that's not always a reasonable expectation, but hey, it's worth mentioning.
Reply:I made my own and yes they are OK
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Grappling and Choking?
How long would it take to get to the point of actually endangering someones life with choking, assuming they have a medium to powerful grip?
Grappling and Choking?
i would say anywhere from 8-10 secs especially after that are passed out, and to the retard below me. i dont know anything i guess. its just what i was told in the marine corps. go figure, what would they know about killing anyone.
Reply:Idiots.
A skilled judoka can sink a choke in 3 to 4 seconds, and 4 to 10 seconds for an average Joe, after which they are KTFO. To cause real damage, a choke has to be held for minutes after reaching unconsciousness.
Reply:Everyone is different, but people typically pass out between 2 and 7 seconds of a tight choke. Death can occur anywhere after that, and brain damage is likely even if death doesn't occur. "Most" people that are in a proper choke will die within around 20 seconds, I believe.
Reply:Well the choke blocks off blood supply that brings oxygen to the brain, and i remember being told in my first aid class that brain damage happons after a min+, but im not sure if when you make a choke if ALL of the blood supply is cut off or if there is still some blood flowing but not enough to keep you concious
Endangering someones life takes longer, usually a few minuets thats for sure but brain damage can happon sooner
Reply:Just a few things to consider.
If you're talking about a choke that most MA practice where bloodflow is cut off from the brain by pinching off the arteries, then 2-8 seconds is right before the danger of permant damage starts to occur. Obviously factor's such as one's health will all have an impact on how much danger there was to the one getting choke out.
Now if you manage to sink in a choke where you're compressing the windpipe (such as squeezing your forearm against their throat) the danger is immediate as your effectively cutting off oxygen from the entire body and suffocating them.
Reply:common sense would tell you that you can be dead for minutes before brain damage so to think you can be permanately hurt in seconds is rediculous. seconds to be out but minutes before damage.
Reply:the chokes we learn are all meant to endanger someones life and they work immediately 5 to 10 seconds gives the person a chance to get out
Reply:Some people are confusing chokes with strangles.
A choke will cause unconciousness in about 10 seconds, but will take a good few minutes longer to cause death.
A strangle will cause unconciousness in a bit longer, but will also trigger an adrenaline dump in the target so would cause a struggle, making it harder to sink. The body would have to be starved of air / oxygen for about 2 - 3 minutes before death from a strangle.
Reply:Actually very soon after they pass out, death becomes a possibility. This is why matches are ended so quickly after consciousness is lost.
Reply:ITS SAFE TO ASSUME THAT WHEN SOMEONE PASSES OUT AND BEGINS TO TURN BLUE, THEIR LIFE MAY BE ENDANGERED IF YOU CONTINUE TO CHOKE THEM!
Jewelry
Grappling and Choking?
i would say anywhere from 8-10 secs especially after that are passed out, and to the retard below me. i dont know anything i guess. its just what i was told in the marine corps. go figure, what would they know about killing anyone.
Reply:Idiots.
A skilled judoka can sink a choke in 3 to 4 seconds, and 4 to 10 seconds for an average Joe, after which they are KTFO. To cause real damage, a choke has to be held for minutes after reaching unconsciousness.
Reply:Everyone is different, but people typically pass out between 2 and 7 seconds of a tight choke. Death can occur anywhere after that, and brain damage is likely even if death doesn't occur. "Most" people that are in a proper choke will die within around 20 seconds, I believe.
Reply:Well the choke blocks off blood supply that brings oxygen to the brain, and i remember being told in my first aid class that brain damage happons after a min+, but im not sure if when you make a choke if ALL of the blood supply is cut off or if there is still some blood flowing but not enough to keep you concious
Endangering someones life takes longer, usually a few minuets thats for sure but brain damage can happon sooner
Reply:Just a few things to consider.
If you're talking about a choke that most MA practice where bloodflow is cut off from the brain by pinching off the arteries, then 2-8 seconds is right before the danger of permant damage starts to occur. Obviously factor's such as one's health will all have an impact on how much danger there was to the one getting choke out.
Now if you manage to sink in a choke where you're compressing the windpipe (such as squeezing your forearm against their throat) the danger is immediate as your effectively cutting off oxygen from the entire body and suffocating them.
Reply:common sense would tell you that you can be dead for minutes before brain damage so to think you can be permanately hurt in seconds is rediculous. seconds to be out but minutes before damage.
Reply:the chokes we learn are all meant to endanger someones life and they work immediately 5 to 10 seconds gives the person a chance to get out
Reply:Some people are confusing chokes with strangles.
A choke will cause unconciousness in about 10 seconds, but will take a good few minutes longer to cause death.
A strangle will cause unconciousness in a bit longer, but will also trigger an adrenaline dump in the target so would cause a struggle, making it harder to sink. The body would have to be starved of air / oxygen for about 2 - 3 minutes before death from a strangle.
Reply:Actually very soon after they pass out, death becomes a possibility. This is why matches are ended so quickly after consciousness is lost.
Reply:ITS SAFE TO ASSUME THAT WHEN SOMEONE PASSES OUT AND BEGINS TO TURN BLUE, THEIR LIFE MAY BE ENDANGERED IF YOU CONTINUE TO CHOKE THEM!
Jewelry
Grappling,striking and stances which one really works the best??
I have noticed so many different opinions concerning fighting,i have always believed in preparation and a realistic approach when it comes to martial arts,a lot of guys that love mma's always told me that since 80 percent of the fights end on the ground and blah blah they would have a greater chance to beat me (i practice muay thai) i am 6'2 and i am 210 pounds,i am athletic fast and i have been doin muay thati for three years. I sparred with one of them in the gym(it was more of a real fight but we were careful) and he did get me to the ground and into a submission move but i overpowered him with my size(not an easy feat) and them got up. He tried some sweeps and some take downs but at the end i beat him by clicnhing his head down and hitting him with a knee ( he got pissed at me...my bad i got carried away) never the less i just wanted to read different opinions concerning the most effective ways to win fights (among those listed) and what are the good martial arts that teach them
Grappling,striking and stances which one really works the best??
i really believe in the right action in the right situation. If you don't know what to do in a particular situation then you get in trouble.
So make sure that if you are at striking distance you know what to do. If you are on the ground you know what to do. And if you are standing very close you know what to do.
generally that means you want a little bit of everything, but not necessarily. There are ways of dealing with strikes that don't involve striking back...etc.
In the ancient chinese tradition they say it is not possible to defeat an enemy, only to keep yourself safe. The enemy makes room for their own defeat when they make a mistake - be ready to make use of that mistake.
Grappling,striking and stances which one really works the best??
i really believe in the right action in the right situation. If you don't know what to do in a particular situation then you get in trouble.
So make sure that if you are at striking distance you know what to do. If you are on the ground you know what to do. And if you are standing very close you know what to do.
generally that means you want a little bit of everything, but not necessarily. There are ways of dealing with strikes that don't involve striking back...etc.
In the ancient chinese tradition they say it is not possible to defeat an enemy, only to keep yourself safe. The enemy makes room for their own defeat when they make a mistake - be ready to make use of that mistake.
Is a grappling dummy an effective way to improve your grappling skills? Which model is the best?
It can help out a little with control and takedowns, and help you get used to what is needed to pull off a particular submission, but at the same time a training partner or friend will be better, and free. Or you can go with a heavy bag and just imagine pulling off the submissions, while still being able to practice ground and pound, takedowns, throws, etc. I ordered this DVD called The Floor Bag Workout, its put out by Mark Hatmaker and I have found it to be perfect when trying to strengthen your ground game, and controling game as well.
Alls you need for it is a heavy bag, and possibly a mat because you could get hurt in doing some of the takedowns. But this DVD is freakin awesome and has helped me out a lot. But you cant replace actual sparring with training solo, just doenst work.
Is a grappling dummy an effective way to improve your grappling skills? Which model is the best?
Parris Hilton !
Reply:The best way to improve grappling skills is to find a friend that is a wrestler to teach you...
Reply:you could use a mirror?
Reply:NO NO NO! You must work with a team mate to develop your skills.
Reply:In any martial style there is no substitute for a real training partner... However not everyone is lucky enough to have access to one everyday. I imagine that havig some form of practice is better than none correct? Any arguments form the peanut gallery?
If you want to try out a dummy give it a go... I train Wing Chun and we use a training dummy for our style, it's a great way to train techniques, it might not teach you to react to your opponent as such but it will make your technique better when applied later... Practice practice practice!
Reply:Its better than not training. I've used a dummy before for Judo throws. It helps to have extra practice plus you can really experiment with a dummy. I was trying to invent throws which I don't think too many partners would like.
Reply:I would imagine that the T1000 would be the best as if you can submit and hold someone made of liquid metal, you can take on all the machados and gracies at once.
Reply:Don't use them....the most effective way to train for grappling is with a resisting partner. Don't get me wrong, you need to train moves to get "muscle memory" but don't substitute this with only a dummy. You can learn all the moves in the world, but if you never have the opportunity to use them against a person that is resisting you, then you are not really learning the move.
Alls you need for it is a heavy bag, and possibly a mat because you could get hurt in doing some of the takedowns. But this DVD is freakin awesome and has helped me out a lot. But you cant replace actual sparring with training solo, just doenst work.
Is a grappling dummy an effective way to improve your grappling skills? Which model is the best?
Parris Hilton !
Reply:The best way to improve grappling skills is to find a friend that is a wrestler to teach you...
Reply:you could use a mirror?
Reply:NO NO NO! You must work with a team mate to develop your skills.
Reply:In any martial style there is no substitute for a real training partner... However not everyone is lucky enough to have access to one everyday. I imagine that havig some form of practice is better than none correct? Any arguments form the peanut gallery?
If you want to try out a dummy give it a go... I train Wing Chun and we use a training dummy for our style, it's a great way to train techniques, it might not teach you to react to your opponent as such but it will make your technique better when applied later... Practice practice practice!
Reply:Its better than not training. I've used a dummy before for Judo throws. It helps to have extra practice plus you can really experiment with a dummy. I was trying to invent throws which I don't think too many partners would like.
Reply:I would imagine that the T1000 would be the best as if you can submit and hold someone made of liquid metal, you can take on all the machados and gracies at once.
Reply:Don't use them....the most effective way to train for grappling is with a resisting partner. Don't get me wrong, you need to train moves to get "muscle memory" but don't substitute this with only a dummy. You can learn all the moves in the world, but if you never have the opportunity to use them against a person that is resisting you, then you are not really learning the move.
What is the best kicking and grappling martial art?
im over weight but really want to study a good martial art composed of what i asked and will help me loss some weight and learn from the martial art
What is the best kicking and grappling martial art?
Hapkido has a good balance of both.
Reply:the one you give first
Reply:Grappling is a snooze. Two guys choking each other. You can lose weight for sure, a lot of physical exercising and strengthening. Judo maybe good for you.
Reply:There is no best. You have a different bodytype than I do (Though I was overweight when I was younger... Not that I care, I'm concerned with functional ability). How can there be some objective "Best" for both of us? That's just one of the many things that won't allow one to say "This is best."
All I can mention are some arts that have kicking in them, as well as some grappling arts.
You have Kickboxing, Tae Kwon Do, Karate, Taekkyon, Hwarangdo, Ke?po, Capoeira, Muay Thai, Wushu, and more. Most of these 50/50 for strikes (If not more in favor of punching), but some variants of any of these can be more in favor in kicking if that is what you like. The amount of fitness gained from these arts depends on the schools in question, which goes with the training methods they abide by. That's not directly style-dependent, however.
As for grappling arts:
Judo^^, Hapkido*, Wrestling*, Aikido*- These arts are big on standing grappling ("Tachiwaza" in Japanese). Nothing is set in stone, however, and many newer variants do teach ground techniques ("Newaza").
BJJ has a strong emphasis on groundfighting, as well as jujutsu. Schools have different concepts though: Some BJJ schools/students add Judo in for more takedowns, and some jujutsu schools are bigger on tachiwaza (Or make the cool mix of BJJ and Jujutsu like Ketusgo Jujutsu lol)
^^ Kosen Judo has a bigger emphasis on groundfighting. There aren't many dojos around that teach it, however.
You should look for good schools with training methods that you like over any style really.
*Judo included, all of these styles have hybrid variants that can combine striking with grappling, for well-rounded abilities. Examples include Real Aikido, Combat Hapkido (Hapkido always has stikes though; Combat Hapkido has groundfighting, as well as some other styles), Various styles of wrestling (Shoot, Submission, Catch), and more.
Look at some information on the styles you're interested in. Pick a style (Or fighting range/s), find a school from there, and good luck.
Reply:The best kicking arts: Kyokushin, Tangsoodo, Muay Thai, Kickboxing.
The best grappling arts: Kodokan Judo, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, Catch Wrestling, Pankration, Combat Submission Wrestling, and Sambo.
And Jon: Since when was TKD 50% punches?
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What is the best kicking and grappling martial art?
Hapkido has a good balance of both.
Reply:the one you give first
Reply:Grappling is a snooze. Two guys choking each other. You can lose weight for sure, a lot of physical exercising and strengthening. Judo maybe good for you.
Reply:There is no best. You have a different bodytype than I do (Though I was overweight when I was younger... Not that I care, I'm concerned with functional ability). How can there be some objective "Best" for both of us? That's just one of the many things that won't allow one to say "This is best."
All I can mention are some arts that have kicking in them, as well as some grappling arts.
You have Kickboxing, Tae Kwon Do, Karate, Taekkyon, Hwarangdo, Ke?po, Capoeira, Muay Thai, Wushu, and more. Most of these 50/50 for strikes (If not more in favor of punching), but some variants of any of these can be more in favor in kicking if that is what you like. The amount of fitness gained from these arts depends on the schools in question, which goes with the training methods they abide by. That's not directly style-dependent, however.
As for grappling arts:
Judo^^, Hapkido*, Wrestling*, Aikido*- These arts are big on standing grappling ("Tachiwaza" in Japanese). Nothing is set in stone, however, and many newer variants do teach ground techniques ("Newaza").
BJJ has a strong emphasis on groundfighting, as well as jujutsu. Schools have different concepts though: Some BJJ schools/students add Judo in for more takedowns, and some jujutsu schools are bigger on tachiwaza (Or make the cool mix of BJJ and Jujutsu like Ketusgo Jujutsu lol)
^^ Kosen Judo has a bigger emphasis on groundfighting. There aren't many dojos around that teach it, however.
You should look for good schools with training methods that you like over any style really.
*Judo included, all of these styles have hybrid variants that can combine striking with grappling, for well-rounded abilities. Examples include Real Aikido, Combat Hapkido (Hapkido always has stikes though; Combat Hapkido has groundfighting, as well as some other styles), Various styles of wrestling (Shoot, Submission, Catch), and more.
Look at some information on the styles you're interested in. Pick a style (Or fighting range/s), find a school from there, and good luck.
Reply:The best kicking arts: Kyokushin, Tangsoodo, Muay Thai, Kickboxing.
The best grappling arts: Kodokan Judo, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, Catch Wrestling, Pankration, Combat Submission Wrestling, and Sambo.
And Jon: Since when was TKD 50% punches?
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I had a nasty clavicle break in August, when would you go back into Jui Jitsu/Grappling/Wreslting?
Ive started to hit the bags again and practicing Muay Thai, but Im not sure about grappling.. I needed two surgeries to correct the break.. its still numb in some spots.. but I'm going crazy just sitting around and thinking about and not being able to do it like I was.
I had a nasty clavicle break in August, when would you go back into Jui Jitsu/Grappling/Wreslting?
You know your body well enough to make this decision on your own but with a injury as severe as yours I'd give it as much time as possible before you start rolling again. Ive been injured training as well but when your caught you need to tap. Easier said then done but it beats the alternative
I have seen lots of people get injured in practice. Thats what happens when your competitive, I didnt mean any disrespect
Reply:The best thing to do is listen to your doctors man, there's no point getting back into it to early only to undo all of the healing that you have done.
One of the hardest things for any athlete to do is rest, but unfortunetly it is THE most important aspect of any training program.
So ask your doctors and if you don't like what they tell you get a second opinion. If all else fails listen to your body and take it easy because you won't be at 100% when you start back, take the time to rebuild your base level of strength and fitness, don't rush it.
Good luck man.
Reply:Well, that is an easy one.
Just ask your family physician and also your surgeon. If they say wait, listen.
As boring as it is waiting to heal, it is even more boring to get re-injured and then have to wait much longer. There is also the possible bonus of arthritis if an injury lingers too long.
Look after your body. You only get one.
Otherwise, you will end up cross training in a less exciting fighting discipline.
(Like chess).
Good luck!!!
Reply:If your doctor is saying you can you probably can, usually doctors are over safe not under safe. If you don't trust the guy get a second or even third opinion
I had a nasty clavicle break in August, when would you go back into Jui Jitsu/Grappling/Wreslting?
You know your body well enough to make this decision on your own but with a injury as severe as yours I'd give it as much time as possible before you start rolling again. Ive been injured training as well but when your caught you need to tap. Easier said then done but it beats the alternative
I have seen lots of people get injured in practice. Thats what happens when your competitive, I didnt mean any disrespect
Reply:The best thing to do is listen to your doctors man, there's no point getting back into it to early only to undo all of the healing that you have done.
One of the hardest things for any athlete to do is rest, but unfortunetly it is THE most important aspect of any training program.
So ask your doctors and if you don't like what they tell you get a second opinion. If all else fails listen to your body and take it easy because you won't be at 100% when you start back, take the time to rebuild your base level of strength and fitness, don't rush it.
Good luck man.
Reply:Well, that is an easy one.
Just ask your family physician and also your surgeon. If they say wait, listen.
As boring as it is waiting to heal, it is even more boring to get re-injured and then have to wait much longer. There is also the possible bonus of arthritis if an injury lingers too long.
Look after your body. You only get one.
Otherwise, you will end up cross training in a less exciting fighting discipline.
(Like chess).
Good luck!!!
Reply:If your doctor is saying you can you probably can, usually doctors are over safe not under safe. If you don't trust the guy get a second or even third opinion
If you start your training 18 or older is it harded to become very skilled at striking or grappling?
Do you think that this observation is true, that if you want to have world class striking skills you need to start very early. I'm sure it is somewhat similar with grappling but not to the same extent. It seems that striking is something that to become at a high professional boxing or kickboxing level you should start very young. Grappling on the other hand seems like as long as you start in your late teens you can still be great. Striking you can too but the odds are almost impossible. Seems like most boxers start very young Oscar, Floyd, Ali, Ray Robinson all started in elementary school.
I could be way off I would like some opinions.
If you start your training 18 or older is it harded to become very skilled at striking or grappling?
There is something you need to understand about your question. It is true that almost all fighters (strike or grapple) who started training young are exceptionally skilled, but this actually has little to do with the number of years they have spent training. The reality is that most children and young adults don't have a high level of dedication to learn difficult things (whether it be martial arts or piano lessons). So, those awesome fighters that have been training since they were 10 yrs old are exceptional because of their natural talent and level of dedication, because those are the two biggest reasons why young fighters stick with their training and achieve success. For example, if a parent forced their young 5 yr old to train in TKD until they were 18 ; this 18 yr old would have 13 yrs of experience, but, lacking the dedication for those years, probably is a very weak fighter. So to boil it down it's not the number of years, but the dedication to practice as much as possible coupled with a bit of natural ability.
Reply:its never too late for anything. striking is not a brain surgery, its a basic skill that requires power and speed, which will be acquired by practice only. so age reall does't matter. however if you want to box professionally i think you can still do it, if you have a magic power or something like that.
Reply:Skill is something you develop, the earlier you start the faster and easier you'll learn it. Skill alone will not produce a world class grappler or striker. You also need speed, power, stamina, dedication, heart, desire, toughness, and so on. These other factors either you are born with them, or have to develop. A guy could be a natural striker or grappler without any training, and with training could become exceptional. It's never too late to start, or expand your game.
Reply:Youth is certainly an advantage, but I started when I was 44. I'm now 59 %26amp; a 3rd degree black belt. Physically, I can't do what much younger people with comparable experience can. I think that Chuck Norris started Tang Soo Do when he was stationed in Korea in the Air Force.
Reply:It is never too late to start. But Cunamo has a point. Dedicated students that start at a young age have the advantage that their brain is also in a formative stage and is able to make connections that we as adults will take longer. What I mean is that a young, really dedicated student that starts proper training will be able, in the long run, to be of exceptional quality. His neuron can make faster connections, and his fine motor skills, become more finely tune and actually closer to gross motor skills. When you are in a stressful situation, like a fight, the first thing that suffers is your fine motor skills. Through training your fine motor skills are so embeded in your brain that are not dificult for you to do anymore, is a reaction, a gross motor skill. Adults can develope that, we might have to train a little harder. Nothing is impossible if you put your all into it.
Reply:Do It
Reply:I'd say it would actually be better to learn it after 18. A younger student just doesn't have the motor nerve control and coordination of an older student like say a 20 year old of the same rank. This reason is also one of a few why you should also be wary of any dojo that cranks out 8 year old black belts by the truckload.
Reply:just get stuck in man. at the age of 18 + you have more determination than a under 10. you will understand technical concepts in language, and have testosterone also.
the benefit of training young is in the hard wiring of your brain, but its never too late to wire it up. if you are dedicated and apply yourself to your maximum, then you will get to superior heights before you know it.
one day you will wake up and realise that it is your 35th birthday, and look back at 21 years of training (I did). does it matter if I started at 14 or 6? no, not when you stack up the years. so do it. you will not regret it. just be true to your feelings, and if you start to learn nothing, sort it out. either you or the art is stagnating. sweet sweet.
time moves on for those who train and for those who dont, so stack up those years of training. each day is a labor, but the years go by so fast.
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I could be way off I would like some opinions.
If you start your training 18 or older is it harded to become very skilled at striking or grappling?
There is something you need to understand about your question. It is true that almost all fighters (strike or grapple) who started training young are exceptionally skilled, but this actually has little to do with the number of years they have spent training. The reality is that most children and young adults don't have a high level of dedication to learn difficult things (whether it be martial arts or piano lessons). So, those awesome fighters that have been training since they were 10 yrs old are exceptional because of their natural talent and level of dedication, because those are the two biggest reasons why young fighters stick with their training and achieve success. For example, if a parent forced their young 5 yr old to train in TKD until they were 18 ; this 18 yr old would have 13 yrs of experience, but, lacking the dedication for those years, probably is a very weak fighter. So to boil it down it's not the number of years, but the dedication to practice as much as possible coupled with a bit of natural ability.
Reply:its never too late for anything. striking is not a brain surgery, its a basic skill that requires power and speed, which will be acquired by practice only. so age reall does't matter. however if you want to box professionally i think you can still do it, if you have a magic power or something like that.
Reply:Skill is something you develop, the earlier you start the faster and easier you'll learn it. Skill alone will not produce a world class grappler or striker. You also need speed, power, stamina, dedication, heart, desire, toughness, and so on. These other factors either you are born with them, or have to develop. A guy could be a natural striker or grappler without any training, and with training could become exceptional. It's never too late to start, or expand your game.
Reply:Youth is certainly an advantage, but I started when I was 44. I'm now 59 %26amp; a 3rd degree black belt. Physically, I can't do what much younger people with comparable experience can. I think that Chuck Norris started Tang Soo Do when he was stationed in Korea in the Air Force.
Reply:It is never too late to start. But Cunamo has a point. Dedicated students that start at a young age have the advantage that their brain is also in a formative stage and is able to make connections that we as adults will take longer. What I mean is that a young, really dedicated student that starts proper training will be able, in the long run, to be of exceptional quality. His neuron can make faster connections, and his fine motor skills, become more finely tune and actually closer to gross motor skills. When you are in a stressful situation, like a fight, the first thing that suffers is your fine motor skills. Through training your fine motor skills are so embeded in your brain that are not dificult for you to do anymore, is a reaction, a gross motor skill. Adults can develope that, we might have to train a little harder. Nothing is impossible if you put your all into it.
Reply:Do It
Reply:I'd say it would actually be better to learn it after 18. A younger student just doesn't have the motor nerve control and coordination of an older student like say a 20 year old of the same rank. This reason is also one of a few why you should also be wary of any dojo that cranks out 8 year old black belts by the truckload.
Reply:just get stuck in man. at the age of 18 + you have more determination than a under 10. you will understand technical concepts in language, and have testosterone also.
the benefit of training young is in the hard wiring of your brain, but its never too late to wire it up. if you are dedicated and apply yourself to your maximum, then you will get to superior heights before you know it.
one day you will wake up and realise that it is your 35th birthday, and look back at 21 years of training (I did). does it matter if I started at 14 or 6? no, not when you stack up the years. so do it. you will not regret it. just be true to your feelings, and if you start to learn nothing, sort it out. either you or the art is stagnating. sweet sweet.
time moves on for those who train and for those who dont, so stack up those years of training. each day is a labor, but the years go by so fast.
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Nintendo DS pirates of the caribbean at world's end: where is the grappling hook PLEASE NO GAMEFAQ?
Hello, people. This is frustrating as ever. There are dozens of people around the net asking this same question yet no one ever answers it. But there must BE an answer, because some people ask questions concerning later parts of the game, so there MUST be a solution.
Where is the grappling hook in the DS version of pirates of the caribbean 3 (at world's end)?
If one more person refers to gamefaqs or gamewinners or any of those sites which DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER I will try my best to find out their home addresses, hunt them down and punch them in the face. Or something.
Thank you for your time.
Nintendo DS pirates of the caribbean at world's end: where is the grappling hook PLEASE NO GAMEFAQ?
you're right. no one has the answer. they say though that your best bet is to go through the levels once more because you can possibly reach new areas in earlier stages with the equipment you now have.
Where is the grappling hook in the DS version of pirates of the caribbean 3 (at world's end)?
If one more person refers to gamefaqs or gamewinners or any of those sites which DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER I will try my best to find out their home addresses, hunt them down and punch them in the face. Or something.
Thank you for your time.
Nintendo DS pirates of the caribbean at world's end: where is the grappling hook PLEASE NO GAMEFAQ?
you're right. no one has the answer. they say though that your best bet is to go through the levels once more because you can possibly reach new areas in earlier stages with the equipment you now have.
What are some good workout routines or exercises to supplement grappling?
What type of strength training or cardio workouts will help with martial arts especially grappling?
What are some good workout routines or exercises to supplement grappling?
Try getting one of those swiss ball thingies. Core muscle strength is critical in all martial arts, but particularly in grappling focused styles. Leg lifts, crunches, kick-offs, all of that sort of thing will increase core muscle strength.
Reply:Upper body training, and you need balance, so you dont fall like a dumbass when trying a trow
Reply:Watch Rickson Gracie in his highlight by saykhan on google video or youtube. He does this crab walk type deal that seems like it would help balance and endurance while low to the ground. Also, pay attention to the rolls.
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What are some good workout routines or exercises to supplement grappling?
Try getting one of those swiss ball thingies. Core muscle strength is critical in all martial arts, but particularly in grappling focused styles. Leg lifts, crunches, kick-offs, all of that sort of thing will increase core muscle strength.
Reply:Upper body training, and you need balance, so you dont fall like a dumbass when trying a trow
Reply:Watch Rickson Gracie in his highlight by saykhan on google video or youtube. He does this crab walk type deal that seems like it would help balance and endurance while low to the ground. Also, pay attention to the rolls.
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Whats a good kind of rope to use on a grappling hook so then it can hold my weight as i climb??
i have a grappling hook and i want to scale my trees and i need to get a different rope cause the one it came with is very thin and i weigh about 145lbs. i need a rope that can withstand like 200 pounds and that is light
Whats a good kind of rope to use on a grappling hook so then it can hold my weight as i climb??
Make a good noose, and slip it around your neck. That way if you fall, you will not worry about it long.
Reply:the one that james bond uses
Reply:Paino string is good.
Reply:Are you a retard? You want rope that you can climb on. HMMM
MAYBE CLIMBING ROPE?
Whats a good kind of rope to use on a grappling hook so then it can hold my weight as i climb??
Make a good noose, and slip it around your neck. That way if you fall, you will not worry about it long.
Reply:the one that james bond uses
Reply:Paino string is good.
Reply:Are you a retard? You want rope that you can climb on. HMMM
MAYBE CLIMBING ROPE?
How do I cope with my anxiety attacks during a grappling tournament?
I am doing really well with grappling and jiu-jitsu...so well that at the new school Im at, my instructors are really pressuring me to get involved in upcoming tournaments. I hate being in the spotlight. Im fine with rolling with whoever and Im not scraed to fight or get hurt but my anxiety is killing me. I dont even want to do tournaments because Im affraid of getting sick, having an anxiety attack and in turn embarrasing myself and the school I would be representing. I dont know if anyone can relate to this but Id really appreciate some feedback...thanks.
How do I cope with my anxiety attacks during a grappling tournament?
anxiety is normal, and in stress situations it comes from adrenaline. realize that it is only your adrenaline creating anxiety and doubt. control your breathing, and stay positive. the adrenaline is trying to force you to take flight. well dont, you will take the fight option.
dont accept the anxiety telling you to stay in your comfort zone. if you feel you can do it, you can mate. positivity and confidence is the holy grail in a fight. experience will take you there.
experience will get you over this anxiety, but you have to jump in the deep end to start that ball rolling.
I was always sh!t scared before a bout, and it wasnt the fear or being hurt, but just being seen as a loser if I lost. well, neither guy (or girl) is. just stepping up to the challenge puts you ahead of everyone else that never has. you gain respect, and more so: self respect.
and once the bell goes, you forget the fear, and the intuition of your reflexes come in and you get into the zone.
there is truth to the saying "feel the fear and do it anyway".
after your first bout you will feel like a million dollars, and your whole life will change.
the more you jump in, the less you hesitate to jump in. an like a snowball, you will end up a very sharp and confident person.
now, we older guys just jump without hesitation. trial by fire they say...
Reply:Do some meditation before the match
Reply:It's natural to be a little nervous before your match. The best thing you can do is to relax, breathe and remind yourself that you can do this. Don't let your mind defeat you. If you lose in your mind, you will lose in your body. Think of the ring as yours, take control of it.
Reply:before u go to a tourament list to music,it may help u relax. or think of something that made u mad and take your anger out on the tourament. good luck
Reply:Scientists call it the "higher performance anxiety curve" and it is experienced by all sorts of people who perform at a higher level (i.e. surgeons, pilots, presidents, and athletes). The higher the performance, the higher the anxiety. The real issue I'm hearing though is your mind. You think you are a loser and you are ashamed of yourself. Stepping into the spotlight will force you to abandon those useless beliefs and start living a happy and confident life. That's what martial arts is for. The whole set up is designed for you to conquer your demons. The opponent represents your inner opponent, doubt and fear. Beat your demons by stepping into the ring. The amount of confidence you get will change your life. Go for it!
Reply:Don't cave in to pressure!
If you are uncomfortable being in the spotlight, just practice your martial art for self-improvement and don't enter tournaments.
If your instructors are at all concerned with YOUR well being and progress, a simple "no thank you" ought to be enough.
If their primary interest is publicity, trophies and school status, maybe it is time to find a different school.
Reply:I feel ya brother! I used to get the same way in tournaments. In the dojo, or on the street was a completely different story, but in front of a bunch of people (that you feel are all watching you), can be a little nerve racking. My advice would be just to trust in your ability, and try to enter into as many tournies as possible. The more you do it, the less apprehensive you'll be.
Reply:don't think about it ,just train hard,get to the ring,jump in do what you gotta do,go home.nothin' to worry about?
Reply:Do not listen to music like previously answerers suggested. Meditate and focus on what you are doing, not who/what is there. In the end it is just a tournament and not self-defense so dont worry. But do remember....
1. If you lose train harder
2. If you win train even harder
How do I cope with my anxiety attacks during a grappling tournament?
anxiety is normal, and in stress situations it comes from adrenaline. realize that it is only your adrenaline creating anxiety and doubt. control your breathing, and stay positive. the adrenaline is trying to force you to take flight. well dont, you will take the fight option.
dont accept the anxiety telling you to stay in your comfort zone. if you feel you can do it, you can mate. positivity and confidence is the holy grail in a fight. experience will take you there.
experience will get you over this anxiety, but you have to jump in the deep end to start that ball rolling.
I was always sh!t scared before a bout, and it wasnt the fear or being hurt, but just being seen as a loser if I lost. well, neither guy (or girl) is. just stepping up to the challenge puts you ahead of everyone else that never has. you gain respect, and more so: self respect.
and once the bell goes, you forget the fear, and the intuition of your reflexes come in and you get into the zone.
there is truth to the saying "feel the fear and do it anyway".
after your first bout you will feel like a million dollars, and your whole life will change.
the more you jump in, the less you hesitate to jump in. an like a snowball, you will end up a very sharp and confident person.
now, we older guys just jump without hesitation. trial by fire they say...
Reply:Do some meditation before the match
Reply:It's natural to be a little nervous before your match. The best thing you can do is to relax, breathe and remind yourself that you can do this. Don't let your mind defeat you. If you lose in your mind, you will lose in your body. Think of the ring as yours, take control of it.
Reply:before u go to a tourament list to music,it may help u relax. or think of something that made u mad and take your anger out on the tourament. good luck
Reply:Scientists call it the "higher performance anxiety curve" and it is experienced by all sorts of people who perform at a higher level (i.e. surgeons, pilots, presidents, and athletes). The higher the performance, the higher the anxiety. The real issue I'm hearing though is your mind. You think you are a loser and you are ashamed of yourself. Stepping into the spotlight will force you to abandon those useless beliefs and start living a happy and confident life. That's what martial arts is for. The whole set up is designed for you to conquer your demons. The opponent represents your inner opponent, doubt and fear. Beat your demons by stepping into the ring. The amount of confidence you get will change your life. Go for it!
Reply:Don't cave in to pressure!
If you are uncomfortable being in the spotlight, just practice your martial art for self-improvement and don't enter tournaments.
If your instructors are at all concerned with YOUR well being and progress, a simple "no thank you" ought to be enough.
If their primary interest is publicity, trophies and school status, maybe it is time to find a different school.
Reply:I feel ya brother! I used to get the same way in tournaments. In the dojo, or on the street was a completely different story, but in front of a bunch of people (that you feel are all watching you), can be a little nerve racking. My advice would be just to trust in your ability, and try to enter into as many tournies as possible. The more you do it, the less apprehensive you'll be.
Reply:don't think about it ,just train hard,get to the ring,jump in do what you gotta do,go home.nothin' to worry about?
Reply:Do not listen to music like previously answerers suggested. Meditate and focus on what you are doing, not who/what is there. In the end it is just a tournament and not self-defense so dont worry. But do remember....
1. If you lose train harder
2. If you win train even harder
Do you think Hatmaker's and catch as catch can grappling system is as good as Brazilian jujitsu?
Hatmaker has a ton of grappling and MMA DVD's and books. He makes no claims are desire to promote brazil jujitsu. I know catch as catch can was around long before brazilian jujitsu was popular. It was around before wrestling turned fake. So is Brazilian Jujitsu just a similar system to what we already had in the US? Is Hatmaker's system as good as Brazilian system?
Do you think Hatmaker's and catch as catch can grappling system is as good as Brazilian jujitsu?
it wouldn't matter how good it was you will never convince a bjj student or teacher that anything other than bjj is any good.thier all brainwashed.theres half a dozen simular styles as good as or better than bjj.you need a good teacher though not books or dvds .bsjj is just a passing fad.
Reply:ERIC PAULSEN CSW combat submission wrestling and catchascatchcan is the better combo! sorry you bjj students.. CSW it was founded by someone who was beat by a BJJ guy and he developed a series of submissions and reversals in anarsenal of #'s ! where bjj only learns a few techniques per month maybe one per week and the gracies have plans to be the next tiger schulmans (franchising and watering down techniques) and charging you a ridiculous amount of $ ... while the MMA guys are rolling through every escape and reversal and take down! plus they learn to take and give hits...BJJ like i've said before is the "gentle art" thats what it translates too! if gentle is what you want stick with it! this style has evolved and its become something much more than(bjj) wants to admit it. I'm thankfull for the traditional arts but I simply need more to be the best these days and a any traditional style is just not cutting it alone these days!
Reply:listin man i cant tell witch one is better i just provide you with evedence, now if you u look at the pride and ufc champions you will find that they have some kind of bjj.
WITCH ONE IS A BETTER GRAPPLING SYSTEM
bjj all the way
Do you think Hatmaker's and catch as catch can grappling system is as good as Brazilian jujitsu?
it wouldn't matter how good it was you will never convince a bjj student or teacher that anything other than bjj is any good.thier all brainwashed.theres half a dozen simular styles as good as or better than bjj.you need a good teacher though not books or dvds .bsjj is just a passing fad.
Reply:ERIC PAULSEN CSW combat submission wrestling and catchascatchcan is the better combo! sorry you bjj students.. CSW it was founded by someone who was beat by a BJJ guy and he developed a series of submissions and reversals in anarsenal of #'s ! where bjj only learns a few techniques per month maybe one per week and the gracies have plans to be the next tiger schulmans (franchising and watering down techniques) and charging you a ridiculous amount of $ ... while the MMA guys are rolling through every escape and reversal and take down! plus they learn to take and give hits...BJJ like i've said before is the "gentle art" thats what it translates too! if gentle is what you want stick with it! this style has evolved and its become something much more than(bjj) wants to admit it. I'm thankfull for the traditional arts but I simply need more to be the best these days and a any traditional style is just not cutting it alone these days!
Reply:listin man i cant tell witch one is better i just provide you with evedence, now if you u look at the pride and ufc champions you will find that they have some kind of bjj.
WITCH ONE IS A BETTER GRAPPLING SYSTEM
bjj all the way
Where could i download many free cage fights and grappling learning videos?
could you give me a bunch of good websites.... which have videos of some of the following:
Vale tudo, pride, ufc,
or/ and
demonstrative grappling videos like judo throws
Where could i download many free cage fights and grappling learning videos?
http://www.psfights.com
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...
http://www.videovat.com/violent-video-cl...
http://www.wildko.com/
There should be enough to be going on with.........
Reply:www.yahoo.com
www.google.com
www.youtube.com
www.dosomereasearchyourselfyoulazyassb...
Reply:www.sherdog.com it is the place to go
Reply:http://www.torrentspy.com and download a P2P program, then search for whatever may be available.
Reply:UTUBE ....... u cant beat it mate also daily motion and budo videos
Reply:Google Video the videos come in ipod and psp format too
Vale tudo, pride, ufc,
or/ and
demonstrative grappling videos like judo throws
Where could i download many free cage fights and grappling learning videos?
http://www.psfights.com
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...
http://www.videovat.com/violent-video-cl...
http://www.wildko.com/
There should be enough to be going on with.........
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Can anyone help me find different types of grappling martial arts and soft martial arts?
I need to find different types of grappling martial arts besides Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or Judo, and i need different forms of soft martial arts besides Kung-Fi or Aikido....thanks!
Can anyone help me find different types of grappling martial arts and soft martial arts?
Ultimately,
It depends on what is available for you.
Other grappling based Martial Arts:
Sambo: Essentially a combination of Judo and Russian Folkstyle wrestling. Great Art, especially Combat Sambo which also does striking. There are quite a few schools in the US, but it is still pretty hard to find.
Catch Wrestling: Olympic style wrestling with hooks (submissions). Very solid style, but hard to track down someone legitimate, so hard to find.
Greco Roman: Upper body derived take downs, no shots, solid throws, and matwork no submissions.Usually taught in High School as part of a Wrestling Athletic Program.
Freestyle Wrestling: Shots, and of course matwork. No submissions. Usually taught in High School as part of a Wrestling Athletic Program.
Shuai Jiao: Chinese/MOngolian wrestling. Some all around wrestling with some submissions, I haven't really rolled with any practitioners so I can't tell you how effective it is, but it is rare and probably no school near you.
Khmer Traditional Wrestling: Basic wrestling style, very leverage based, no submissions or joint locks, just solid fundamentals. If you live in Cambodia, easy to find, otherwise good luck.
Others have mentioned Japanese JiuJitsu.
There is no basically Submission Wrestling that is easy to find. Solid No Gi based wrestling that involves submissions and generally includes techniques from many grappling arts.
As far as Soft Style:
By lsaying no Kung Fu (which is MANY MANY styles, some of which are soft) essentially you are looking for Soft Style arts that are not Chinese.
Soft styles are generally styles that focus on redirection of energy and flowing type of attacking.
Systema: Russian based art, normally considered flowing, but it differs so greatly hard to really label it. 90% of it is BS, but there are good schools.
Hapkido: Think of it as Korean Aikido with more strikes, still uses principles of redirection and flow.
Silat: Indonesian art, though it does combine some hard principles, it is very flow derived.
There are probably a ton of arts that combine hard and soft elements, not to mention probably a few dozen of rare or exotic soft style arts, all of which are isolated and hard to find on a broad scale.
Hope that is of some help to ya.
Reply:Greco-Roman wrestling, and Sambo are some other grappling arts to consider.
Reply:Sambo is an excellent choice as pointed out above. Traditional JiuJitsu is also an option(the japanese version).
As for a soft style are you looking for a soft striking(Kung Fu) or a soft throwing(Akido) Style?
Reply:Look at real Taijiquan, Baguazhang, and Kuntao methods. (I mean methods that go beyond just doing forms and incorporate sincere and applicable energy drills of push hands and sparring.)
Surprisingly, if you find someone good at these methods, you will find someone versitile enough to both strike and grapple.
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Can anyone help me find different types of grappling martial arts and soft martial arts?
Ultimately,
It depends on what is available for you.
Other grappling based Martial Arts:
Sambo: Essentially a combination of Judo and Russian Folkstyle wrestling. Great Art, especially Combat Sambo which also does striking. There are quite a few schools in the US, but it is still pretty hard to find.
Catch Wrestling: Olympic style wrestling with hooks (submissions). Very solid style, but hard to track down someone legitimate, so hard to find.
Greco Roman: Upper body derived take downs, no shots, solid throws, and matwork no submissions.Usually taught in High School as part of a Wrestling Athletic Program.
Freestyle Wrestling: Shots, and of course matwork. No submissions. Usually taught in High School as part of a Wrestling Athletic Program.
Shuai Jiao: Chinese/MOngolian wrestling. Some all around wrestling with some submissions, I haven't really rolled with any practitioners so I can't tell you how effective it is, but it is rare and probably no school near you.
Khmer Traditional Wrestling: Basic wrestling style, very leverage based, no submissions or joint locks, just solid fundamentals. If you live in Cambodia, easy to find, otherwise good luck.
Others have mentioned Japanese JiuJitsu.
There is no basically Submission Wrestling that is easy to find. Solid No Gi based wrestling that involves submissions and generally includes techniques from many grappling arts.
As far as Soft Style:
By lsaying no Kung Fu (which is MANY MANY styles, some of which are soft) essentially you are looking for Soft Style arts that are not Chinese.
Soft styles are generally styles that focus on redirection of energy and flowing type of attacking.
Systema: Russian based art, normally considered flowing, but it differs so greatly hard to really label it. 90% of it is BS, but there are good schools.
Hapkido: Think of it as Korean Aikido with more strikes, still uses principles of redirection and flow.
Silat: Indonesian art, though it does combine some hard principles, it is very flow derived.
There are probably a ton of arts that combine hard and soft elements, not to mention probably a few dozen of rare or exotic soft style arts, all of which are isolated and hard to find on a broad scale.
Hope that is of some help to ya.
Reply:Greco-Roman wrestling, and Sambo are some other grappling arts to consider.
Reply:Sambo is an excellent choice as pointed out above. Traditional JiuJitsu is also an option(the japanese version).
As for a soft style are you looking for a soft striking(Kung Fu) or a soft throwing(Akido) Style?
Reply:Look at real Taijiquan, Baguazhang, and Kuntao methods. (I mean methods that go beyond just doing forms and incorporate sincere and applicable energy drills of push hands and sparring.)
Surprisingly, if you find someone good at these methods, you will find someone versitile enough to both strike and grapple.
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Whats the best way to cut weight for grappling?
I have a grappling tournament in less than two weeks and im a 157 and want to drop to 145, what all is best to do?
Whats the best way to cut weight for grappling?
Looks like were about the same weight, I have to cut from about 165-168 to 145 for MMA fights. I use to wrestle so I'm a little more use to it but you should be fine. my weigh ins are usually the day before but what I try to do is train hard and eat healthy enough so that you can get within 6 pounds the morning before your weigh in. remember you need to be 6 pounds the morning before WITHOUT having cut back on any fluids. have a good practice and try to go to bed 2-4 pounds over. You ll loose on average 2 or more pounds in your sleep, that should put you right on but if you end up being 2-3 pounds over the morning of the weigh-in use a plastic suit that costs about 7 bucks at wall-mart or any sporting good store and sit in a sauna for 15-20 minute intervals. I usally loose about 3 an hour like that.And bring a friend with you if you can it helps more than you can imagine. youll probably be grappling shortly after the weigh-in so drink plenty of water and as stupid as it sounds pedia lite really helps replinish you elyctrolytes wich is a must. Dont eat anything heavy! youll feal like **** when you roll. Subway is always a good call. Hope it helps and good luck. and if you start whippin *** in the grappling game you should make a jump to MMA.
Reply:you mean to say that you want to try drop a weight class for the official weigh in right?
well what boxers do, im pretty sure you have seen is - lose water weight. an adverse diet would affect your muscular growth and your overall physical condition, and than will affect your performance. so i suggest losing water weight if your intention is to lose weight to drop a weight class.
how to do it? simply said the principle is to sweat it out. wear winter clothing and go for a very strenous run. do some strenous activities. most importantly try not to drink too uch water after the whole thing, just enough to wet your motuh and make sure you do not push yourself to the extent of heat exhaustion. since you have a tournament im guessing you have a coach? because doing the run with the winter clothing makes you prone to 'heat injuries' so it will be best to have him around with you to give you aid should you need it. but as always, listen to your body
Reply:'Cutting weight" is dropping water weight just before the weigh ins, starting 12-36 hours before, depending on how much is to be droppped. You're looking to drop 12 pounds from 157, about 7.5%. This is doable, but you have to allow yourself recovery time between the weigh in and the match. If they're 10 minutes apart, 'cutting' water wont let you compete. You would have to actually lose fat and/or muscle mass.
To cut water weight, do light to moderate aerobic exercise (biking, jumprope, etc) in a very warm place, while wear a vinyl suit, or both. The idea is to start a good consistant sweat to drop water weight. DO NOT GET A DRINK! that defeats the whole purpose. Go slow, weigh as you go so you don't over do it, and make sure you have a buddy helping out so you dont get weak and cheat.
Good luck!
Reply:12 lbs in 2 weeks is very ambitious and a serious loss of weight for anyone. I would advise you, since this is so short term, to concentrate on your training and physical condition to perform your best in the tournament. Then try to lose those extra pounds in the following weeks.
If you are determined to cut weight, start ASAP!!! Increase your training levels and use plastics sparingly at first. It will heat you up causing you to sweat more, but will also increase your heart rate during exercise, burning more calories. Always have a buddy nearby in case you go too far and need help.
Watch your diet ferociously. No fats or oils or sugars or sodium. Consider some meal replacement bars or shakes from GNC. They'll have a good amount of vitamins and nutrients that will help prevent your body from crashing as well as protein to prevent lean muscle loss.
Count ALL calories. Males need an average of 2000-2500 calories a day for basic functioning. If you eat a lot less than that, plus work out vigorously, that translates to weight loss.
Finally, if you are not within a few pounds (4-5) a day before the meet, consider not going for those extra few pounds. The energy and effort will likely leave you exhausted and drained, so that even if you do make the cut, you will be a play toy to the other guy who didn't need to cut and is well rested and prepared.
Good luck and be safe.
Whats the best way to cut weight for grappling?
Looks like were about the same weight, I have to cut from about 165-168 to 145 for MMA fights. I use to wrestle so I'm a little more use to it but you should be fine. my weigh ins are usually the day before but what I try to do is train hard and eat healthy enough so that you can get within 6 pounds the morning before your weigh in. remember you need to be 6 pounds the morning before WITHOUT having cut back on any fluids. have a good practice and try to go to bed 2-4 pounds over. You ll loose on average 2 or more pounds in your sleep, that should put you right on but if you end up being 2-3 pounds over the morning of the weigh-in use a plastic suit that costs about 7 bucks at wall-mart or any sporting good store and sit in a sauna for 15-20 minute intervals. I usally loose about 3 an hour like that.And bring a friend with you if you can it helps more than you can imagine. youll probably be grappling shortly after the weigh-in so drink plenty of water and as stupid as it sounds pedia lite really helps replinish you elyctrolytes wich is a must. Dont eat anything heavy! youll feal like **** when you roll. Subway is always a good call. Hope it helps and good luck. and if you start whippin *** in the grappling game you should make a jump to MMA.
Reply:you mean to say that you want to try drop a weight class for the official weigh in right?
well what boxers do, im pretty sure you have seen is - lose water weight. an adverse diet would affect your muscular growth and your overall physical condition, and than will affect your performance. so i suggest losing water weight if your intention is to lose weight to drop a weight class.
how to do it? simply said the principle is to sweat it out. wear winter clothing and go for a very strenous run. do some strenous activities. most importantly try not to drink too uch water after the whole thing, just enough to wet your motuh and make sure you do not push yourself to the extent of heat exhaustion. since you have a tournament im guessing you have a coach? because doing the run with the winter clothing makes you prone to 'heat injuries' so it will be best to have him around with you to give you aid should you need it. but as always, listen to your body
Reply:'Cutting weight" is dropping water weight just before the weigh ins, starting 12-36 hours before, depending on how much is to be droppped. You're looking to drop 12 pounds from 157, about 7.5%. This is doable, but you have to allow yourself recovery time between the weigh in and the match. If they're 10 minutes apart, 'cutting' water wont let you compete. You would have to actually lose fat and/or muscle mass.
To cut water weight, do light to moderate aerobic exercise (biking, jumprope, etc) in a very warm place, while wear a vinyl suit, or both. The idea is to start a good consistant sweat to drop water weight. DO NOT GET A DRINK! that defeats the whole purpose. Go slow, weigh as you go so you don't over do it, and make sure you have a buddy helping out so you dont get weak and cheat.
Good luck!
Reply:12 lbs in 2 weeks is very ambitious and a serious loss of weight for anyone. I would advise you, since this is so short term, to concentrate on your training and physical condition to perform your best in the tournament. Then try to lose those extra pounds in the following weeks.
If you are determined to cut weight, start ASAP!!! Increase your training levels and use plastics sparingly at first. It will heat you up causing you to sweat more, but will also increase your heart rate during exercise, burning more calories. Always have a buddy nearby in case you go too far and need help.
Watch your diet ferociously. No fats or oils or sugars or sodium. Consider some meal replacement bars or shakes from GNC. They'll have a good amount of vitamins and nutrients that will help prevent your body from crashing as well as protein to prevent lean muscle loss.
Count ALL calories. Males need an average of 2000-2500 calories a day for basic functioning. If you eat a lot less than that, plus work out vigorously, that translates to weight loss.
Finally, if you are not within a few pounds (4-5) a day before the meet, consider not going for those extra few pounds. The energy and effort will likely leave you exhausted and drained, so that even if you do make the cut, you will be a play toy to the other guy who didn't need to cut and is well rested and prepared.
Good luck and be safe.
Frustrating: Tomb Raider Anniversary PC controls for grappling hook aren't working?
I jump and throw the hook as the game directs, but it doesn't want to attach to the grappling rings. I've reached a point where I can't work around it and I need the stupid thing to move forward. Help (!). . . please.
Frustrating: Tomb Raider Anniversary PC controls for grappling hook aren't working?
i hope this tip can help you..
to use the hook, you need to press the JUMP button and then followed quickly by the GRAPPLE button. You cannot pres both buttons at the same time. It's ONE AFTER ANOTHER.
Also, make sure that the grapple ICON appear (a blue-white circle thing that appears whenever there's a grapple ring in sight) befiore you jump. If the icon doesn't appear, you won't be able to hook it. When you jump, keep the camera fixed on the grapple point...
hope this helps...
Reply:hey i had the same problem, what you do you take a running jump then press Q and it grabs on. hope this solves your problem, if not download the TRA loader found here: http://tomb-raider-anniversary... and you can skip the problem Report It
Frustrating: Tomb Raider Anniversary PC controls for grappling hook aren't working?
i hope this tip can help you..
to use the hook, you need to press the JUMP button and then followed quickly by the GRAPPLE button. You cannot pres both buttons at the same time. It's ONE AFTER ANOTHER.
Also, make sure that the grapple ICON appear (a blue-white circle thing that appears whenever there's a grapple ring in sight) befiore you jump. If the icon doesn't appear, you won't be able to hook it. When you jump, keep the camera fixed on the grapple point...
hope this helps...
Reply:hey i had the same problem, what you do you take a running jump then press Q and it grabs on. hope this solves your problem, if not download the TRA loader found here: http://tomb-raider-anniversary... and you can skip the problem Report It
What should you focus on in a grappling martial art?
In stand up grappling should I focus on counters, throws, defense ect... I just started so I want to get good at one area and work my way up from there. Thanks to whoever answers :)
What should you focus on in a grappling martial art?
The short answer - 'the feel' of grappling. Even grapplers who take a break from the sport and come back the first thing they say is they have lost the feel and need to get it back again.
Two parts-
1.Feeling the other guys balance at all times. Most grappling moves need to break destabliise or overload the other guys balance before any moves work. you need to get very good
at feeling just where his balance is. its everything, his timing his muscle rigidity, which way he is loading his weight.
2. Not wasting energy. In other words when grabbing someone you do it just with your hand, or maybe hand an arm, or maybe hand arm, shoulder and weight forward.
The point is learning just to use the muscles needed, and where possible your weight to save your muscles some work.
At first you will be gritting your teeth and sweating and straining everything at once, until you get the feel for it.
These things come from two things. Coaching and sparring and are what makes grappling effective.
The reason judo and wrestling guys throw aikido guys all over the mat for example is aikido know all the cool techniques but never spar hard enough to get the feel.
Reply:Actually, I think hand and forearm strength is the true key. You are able to immobilize and control your opponent if your hand and arm strength is superior to theirs...
Reply:It's best to train in all aspects. However, I would suggest counters or throws as defense would just leave you sitting there while he gets the scorecard from the judges. Throws look really good from a judge's standpoint so, that might be a good way to go.
Reply:cardio. you won't learn much if you can only go for 5 minutes of live rolling at a time. then you can spend time figuring out what you personally need to work on. like balance, strength, technique, etc...
Reply:Bridging is the most important aspect of grappling from any system. No matter what style you practice the ability to judge and move the closing distance to your enemy. Control your breathing and balance and use a body rhythm that will disrupt the movements of the enemy while maintaining balance and control from your end.
Reply:sixtus has the answer here I was going to tell ya the same thing but there is no need to read it twice
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What should you focus on in a grappling martial art?
The short answer - 'the feel' of grappling. Even grapplers who take a break from the sport and come back the first thing they say is they have lost the feel and need to get it back again.
Two parts-
1.Feeling the other guys balance at all times. Most grappling moves need to break destabliise or overload the other guys balance before any moves work. you need to get very good
at feeling just where his balance is. its everything, his timing his muscle rigidity, which way he is loading his weight.
2. Not wasting energy. In other words when grabbing someone you do it just with your hand, or maybe hand an arm, or maybe hand arm, shoulder and weight forward.
The point is learning just to use the muscles needed, and where possible your weight to save your muscles some work.
At first you will be gritting your teeth and sweating and straining everything at once, until you get the feel for it.
These things come from two things. Coaching and sparring and are what makes grappling effective.
The reason judo and wrestling guys throw aikido guys all over the mat for example is aikido know all the cool techniques but never spar hard enough to get the feel.
Reply:Actually, I think hand and forearm strength is the true key. You are able to immobilize and control your opponent if your hand and arm strength is superior to theirs...
Reply:It's best to train in all aspects. However, I would suggest counters or throws as defense would just leave you sitting there while he gets the scorecard from the judges. Throws look really good from a judge's standpoint so, that might be a good way to go.
Reply:cardio. you won't learn much if you can only go for 5 minutes of live rolling at a time. then you can spend time figuring out what you personally need to work on. like balance, strength, technique, etc...
Reply:Bridging is the most important aspect of grappling from any system. No matter what style you practice the ability to judge and move the closing distance to your enemy. Control your breathing and balance and use a body rhythm that will disrupt the movements of the enemy while maintaining balance and control from your end.
Reply:sixtus has the answer here I was going to tell ya the same thing but there is no need to read it twice
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Why am i not submitting people in my submission grappling?
In my submission grappling I'm am not submitting people... I know good submissions and pick them up fast but when we start rolling I don't submit people... am I going too soft? I don't want to go too hard because I don't wan to hurt my teammate... why am I not submitting people in my submission grappling?
Why am i not submitting people in my submission grappling?
hi there....it doesnt mean tat u r soft ...but in my point of view u need to do more sparring......when i was doing boxing at first stage i use to punch all the heavy bags perfectly, do all the drills correctly and use to mix great combos of more than 5-6 punches but when i started to do sparring i was hardly able to throw one left jab and follow my right jab with tat.....i then realise that its because heavy bag just sit in one place so u can hit it as much as u want but yr opponent keeps on moving so its difficult to throw him lots of punches so finall i focused on pad works and sparrrig and today i can throw combos in sparring......same thing with yr submission wrestling...u can submit yr team mate when u r practicing but when u r rolling u r not able to submit...it doesnt mean tat u dont know how to submit u just need to practice this on rolling.....u need to do lots of sparring n one day u can easily thorow ,lock n submit yr opponent when he is moving....good luck
Reply:I have to agree with Rak that it will require more sparring. Oftentimes experience or lack of it is the reason for mistakes or reasons why fighters don't realize an opportunity and take advantage or capitalize on it. As you gain more experience you also should start to see and recognize opportunities more quickly-sometimes even before your opponent does it you will be able to predict it. Your ability will also improve along with your understanding of how hard to go and what is acceptable and what may be excessive. Try also to go with a little bigger and more experienced partner than yourself so that if you start to to something to vigorously or not vigorous enough he can coach you and give you some pointers and feedback.
Reply:Make sure you go slow when you practice, if your keeping the locks tight and you are doing them properly, then ease the lock on they should be tapping or the lock is not on right, take your time, do it slowly, you must learn this slowly to learn it right.your speed will come in time, be patient and concentrate only on how the submission lock should be applied.
Reply:well you seemed to leave out a few details. Like how long you've been training for one. Submission just like any other art takes time to learn and develope, it also depends on the quality of instruction your receiving. The instructor can make all the difference in the world. Be paitent in your training. With time and hard work things will fall into place you'll be seeing the techniques from all different angles and you'll be getting your submissions. just give it a little time.
Reply:I'm just guessing your problem is you are not getting a controlling Position before submission.
You don't have to hurt anyone, but make sure they are not comfortable when you are in a controlling position. You hooks must be tight, no spaces between and they should not be wriggling about. In fact, if you can make life difficult for them, you can control them easier and get the submission almost every time.
Another way is to get someone to spot you when grappling and analyse what you are doing wrong.
Hope this help, keep rolling!
Reply:I'm sure if you fine tune you techniques you will start submitting your team mates. Pick a few that you like and really work on them with a buddy until you have them down pat.
Reply:if you are good, you won't have to worry about hurting people, because you'll have enough control to give people time to tap. are you constantly getting swept and reversed and mounted? do you spend more time attacking or defending? how often do you end up being tapped?
Why am i not submitting people in my submission grappling?
hi there....it doesnt mean tat u r soft ...but in my point of view u need to do more sparring......when i was doing boxing at first stage i use to punch all the heavy bags perfectly, do all the drills correctly and use to mix great combos of more than 5-6 punches but when i started to do sparring i was hardly able to throw one left jab and follow my right jab with tat.....i then realise that its because heavy bag just sit in one place so u can hit it as much as u want but yr opponent keeps on moving so its difficult to throw him lots of punches so finall i focused on pad works and sparrrig and today i can throw combos in sparring......same thing with yr submission wrestling...u can submit yr team mate when u r practicing but when u r rolling u r not able to submit...it doesnt mean tat u dont know how to submit u just need to practice this on rolling.....u need to do lots of sparring n one day u can easily thorow ,lock n submit yr opponent when he is moving....good luck
Reply:I have to agree with Rak that it will require more sparring. Oftentimes experience or lack of it is the reason for mistakes or reasons why fighters don't realize an opportunity and take advantage or capitalize on it. As you gain more experience you also should start to see and recognize opportunities more quickly-sometimes even before your opponent does it you will be able to predict it. Your ability will also improve along with your understanding of how hard to go and what is acceptable and what may be excessive. Try also to go with a little bigger and more experienced partner than yourself so that if you start to to something to vigorously or not vigorous enough he can coach you and give you some pointers and feedback.
Reply:Make sure you go slow when you practice, if your keeping the locks tight and you are doing them properly, then ease the lock on they should be tapping or the lock is not on right, take your time, do it slowly, you must learn this slowly to learn it right.your speed will come in time, be patient and concentrate only on how the submission lock should be applied.
Reply:well you seemed to leave out a few details. Like how long you've been training for one. Submission just like any other art takes time to learn and develope, it also depends on the quality of instruction your receiving. The instructor can make all the difference in the world. Be paitent in your training. With time and hard work things will fall into place you'll be seeing the techniques from all different angles and you'll be getting your submissions. just give it a little time.
Reply:I'm just guessing your problem is you are not getting a controlling Position before submission.
You don't have to hurt anyone, but make sure they are not comfortable when you are in a controlling position. You hooks must be tight, no spaces between and they should not be wriggling about. In fact, if you can make life difficult for them, you can control them easier and get the submission almost every time.
Another way is to get someone to spot you when grappling and analyse what you are doing wrong.
Hope this help, keep rolling!
Reply:I'm sure if you fine tune you techniques you will start submitting your team mates. Pick a few that you like and really work on them with a buddy until you have them down pat.
Reply:if you are good, you won't have to worry about hurting people, because you'll have enough control to give people time to tap. are you constantly getting swept and reversed and mounted? do you spend more time attacking or defending? how often do you end up being tapped?
How do you get awesome mad grappling skills?
In this video, the combatants are displaying some very remarkable grappling/wrestling skills, it's mad crazy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOsLPuFOH...
How do you get awesome mad grappling skills?
Sleep with a piece of tuna on your forehead...that'll get you all the practice you need.
Reply:by practicing u idiot
Reply:By training ever day in the best grappling arts: Judo, Submission Wrestling, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, and Pankration, and Muay Thai.
Reply:Utube what a great site I have learnt so much from it, katas, bunkais (applications), weapons techniques - great, and it free
Reply:haha i bet neither anyone of the answerers even watched the links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOsLPuFOH...
How do you get awesome mad grappling skills?
Sleep with a piece of tuna on your forehead...that'll get you all the practice you need.
Reply:by practicing u idiot
Reply:By training ever day in the best grappling arts: Judo, Submission Wrestling, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, and Pankration, and Muay Thai.
Reply:Utube what a great site I have learnt so much from it, katas, bunkais (applications), weapons techniques - great, and it free
Reply:haha i bet neither anyone of the answerers even watched the links
I want to host a local grappling tournament and do not know what I need to do to get started. Please help!!?
I am a mixed martial artist and want to host a local grappling tournament. Something like NAGA or Grappler's quest but smaller. I don not know what I need to do in terms of approval from thre state, renting space, insurance, safety, etc. I was hoping someone out there may know and be willing to help me get started. I would really appreciate the help.
I want to host a local grappling tournament and do not know what I need to do to get started. Please help!!?
Well one question is by local do you mean just the grapplers from your area? If so that makes things a lot easier.
Truthfully, you can organize a local event through your school, and just use the same insurance policy. Simply have the competetors sign waivers just like you and your fellow students do.
Next, mat space. A lot of high schools are good for this, not to mention have wrestling mats that you can use. Talk to your local high school athletics departments, invite some of their wrestlers to compete, offer some free classes for some of their wrestlers as a means of helping them be more effective.
You work the right angle and you can get most High school coaches to chip in, then you have a location, mats, and a facility.
I am not sure too many churches would be down for a grappling tournament, especially when they start asking exactly what it is.
Next pick a rule set that is already out there, you mentioned NAGA, they have a great grappling rule set. See if you can find out anything about getting some NAGA refs. Most guys will be down to ref your event if you are willing to pay for their travel expenses.
Honestly you can have amateur refs, but you risk a whole lot more injury then if you have someone inexperienced reffing.
Safety is really in the hands of your refs, and ensuring you have the proper facilities and mats.
Honestly hosting tournaments are rough. A local tournament isn't as bad, but you are still going to have to come out of pocket a good bit to ensure things are safe.
You can try to work with other grappling coaches and work out a point system, and reffing amongst each other. While you risk some slight favoritism, most people can be professional enough to still score fairly regardless of it being their fighter or not.
Brackets, and all that stuff are easy enough to figure out how to do on your own. There are a ton of PDFs and the like out there on the net that can help you organize that portion of it.
Easiest for organization is following another organizations rules, divisions, and point system. NAGAs weight divisions are good, their point system solid, and their breakdown of Novice Intermediate and Advanced are great as well.
A lot of really depends on how many competetors you can actually get. Find out the interest in your area, work with high school wrestling teams. Offer them the opportunity to make money by selling concessions at your event. Get your local news and paper involved, work with local radio stations. You can get a lot of free press just by getting out there and talking with people.
The better you know your local scene the better off you can be.
Message me if you want to bounce any thoughts of me, I have hosted State Judo tournaments, and been a part of many different organizations hosting different types of athletic events.
Hope that is of some help man, Good luck and feel free to message me if I can be of any further help.
Reply:Local events don't usually need approval from the state. MMA events (like UFC, for instance) need the same certification as any boxing match, so check into your state's boxing commission. (VA doesn't require TKD tournaments to be registered at all.)
As for space - schools work, but you need to go through a hill of red tape. Try your local Y, or other gymnasium. Even some churches will allow this type of event with enough insurance.
As for insurance, talk to the same company you have your school insured through.
As for safety, what do you normally use in your classes? Start there.
Hope this helps!
Reply:Check with your state athletic commission and see what they allow and require. Also inquire if anyone else in that state has held one? If it is just a local type tournament and grappling only you may find that all you need is liability insurance to cover the event. Many states recognize AAU Judo events which have similar type rules (grappling, throws, chokes-at the black belt level). While most states have wrestling and judo tournaments they also have certified referees. When you call them be prepared, have a copy of proposed rules, weight classes, etc. handy. Many of these people don't have martial arts backgrounds so you need to be ready to answer their questions and even offer to send them a copy. Get a copy of someone else's rules and weight classes to use as a framework for your own and go from there.
When you start to talk about submission type holds, chokes, and using knees, elbows, and/or punching and striking while a person is down is where they really start to have some concerns. There are certain holds that are not allowed in wrestling tournaments or at the high school level that are allowed at the college level and some states have very strict requirements concerning all of this.
Reply:Yeah you need a promoters license with the state. I think in California you need a $1,000 bond to do an amatuer show. Just make sure you put on a good safe show. If you are doing kids matches, it would be good if you asked for birth certificate verification to stop some of the cheating that goes on. I can tell you as a parent it is a bad experience when your kid is matched up with another kid 3 years old sometimes because they lie and other times because the promoters just don't care.
work boots
I want to host a local grappling tournament and do not know what I need to do to get started. Please help!!?
Well one question is by local do you mean just the grapplers from your area? If so that makes things a lot easier.
Truthfully, you can organize a local event through your school, and just use the same insurance policy. Simply have the competetors sign waivers just like you and your fellow students do.
Next, mat space. A lot of high schools are good for this, not to mention have wrestling mats that you can use. Talk to your local high school athletics departments, invite some of their wrestlers to compete, offer some free classes for some of their wrestlers as a means of helping them be more effective.
You work the right angle and you can get most High school coaches to chip in, then you have a location, mats, and a facility.
I am not sure too many churches would be down for a grappling tournament, especially when they start asking exactly what it is.
Next pick a rule set that is already out there, you mentioned NAGA, they have a great grappling rule set. See if you can find out anything about getting some NAGA refs. Most guys will be down to ref your event if you are willing to pay for their travel expenses.
Honestly you can have amateur refs, but you risk a whole lot more injury then if you have someone inexperienced reffing.
Safety is really in the hands of your refs, and ensuring you have the proper facilities and mats.
Honestly hosting tournaments are rough. A local tournament isn't as bad, but you are still going to have to come out of pocket a good bit to ensure things are safe.
You can try to work with other grappling coaches and work out a point system, and reffing amongst each other. While you risk some slight favoritism, most people can be professional enough to still score fairly regardless of it being their fighter or not.
Brackets, and all that stuff are easy enough to figure out how to do on your own. There are a ton of PDFs and the like out there on the net that can help you organize that portion of it.
Easiest for organization is following another organizations rules, divisions, and point system. NAGAs weight divisions are good, their point system solid, and their breakdown of Novice Intermediate and Advanced are great as well.
A lot of really depends on how many competetors you can actually get. Find out the interest in your area, work with high school wrestling teams. Offer them the opportunity to make money by selling concessions at your event. Get your local news and paper involved, work with local radio stations. You can get a lot of free press just by getting out there and talking with people.
The better you know your local scene the better off you can be.
Message me if you want to bounce any thoughts of me, I have hosted State Judo tournaments, and been a part of many different organizations hosting different types of athletic events.
Hope that is of some help man, Good luck and feel free to message me if I can be of any further help.
Reply:Local events don't usually need approval from the state. MMA events (like UFC, for instance) need the same certification as any boxing match, so check into your state's boxing commission. (VA doesn't require TKD tournaments to be registered at all.)
As for space - schools work, but you need to go through a hill of red tape. Try your local Y, or other gymnasium. Even some churches will allow this type of event with enough insurance.
As for insurance, talk to the same company you have your school insured through.
As for safety, what do you normally use in your classes? Start there.
Hope this helps!
Reply:Check with your state athletic commission and see what they allow and require. Also inquire if anyone else in that state has held one? If it is just a local type tournament and grappling only you may find that all you need is liability insurance to cover the event. Many states recognize AAU Judo events which have similar type rules (grappling, throws, chokes-at the black belt level). While most states have wrestling and judo tournaments they also have certified referees. When you call them be prepared, have a copy of proposed rules, weight classes, etc. handy. Many of these people don't have martial arts backgrounds so you need to be ready to answer their questions and even offer to send them a copy. Get a copy of someone else's rules and weight classes to use as a framework for your own and go from there.
When you start to talk about submission type holds, chokes, and using knees, elbows, and/or punching and striking while a person is down is where they really start to have some concerns. There are certain holds that are not allowed in wrestling tournaments or at the high school level that are allowed at the college level and some states have very strict requirements concerning all of this.
Reply:Yeah you need a promoters license with the state. I think in California you need a $1,000 bond to do an amatuer show. Just make sure you put on a good safe show. If you are doing kids matches, it would be good if you asked for birth certificate verification to stop some of the cheating that goes on. I can tell you as a parent it is a bad experience when your kid is matched up with another kid 3 years old sometimes because they lie and other times because the promoters just don't care.
work boots
How can I retract a grappling hook line?
I am trying to find a way to cast out a grappling hook attached to a 50' long, 5/32" diameter paracord line (tested at 550 lbs.) and make it so I can reel it back in to a circular thing at my side. Fishing reels won't work, and I'm pretty sure fly wheels are just the same. All I want to do is throw it out, and be able to crank it back in, and be able to neatly store it like that, but be able to cast it out again without having to take out the length I need. Something that works like a fishing reel, but can hold that size of rope. Can anyone help me? Thanks!
How can I retract a grappling hook line?
Cave divers use what you're describing so they don't get lost. Here's one link but you would have to call to find out which ones attach to a belt.
http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-158/Clip...
Reply:wench. you could opt out for 1/4 cable.
down side it wont fit on your belt.and you'll have to pull it out of the reel.
Reply:Perhaps go to an electrical supply store. They have small spools used for cable and wire that you may be able to slightly modify. For just a 50 foot length may find what your seeking.
Also look in a plumbing supply store. They have retractable reels used for storing
metal lines used for cleaning out drains.
Good luck
How can I retract a grappling hook line?
Cave divers use what you're describing so they don't get lost. Here's one link but you would have to call to find out which ones attach to a belt.
http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-158/Clip...
Reply:wench. you could opt out for 1/4 cable.
down side it wont fit on your belt.and you'll have to pull it out of the reel.
Reply:Perhaps go to an electrical supply store. They have small spools used for cable and wire that you may be able to slightly modify. For just a 50 foot length may find what your seeking.
Also look in a plumbing supply store. They have retractable reels used for storing
metal lines used for cleaning out drains.
Good luck
What are the 10 best grappling/wrestling moves?
If you were training someone for a grappling/wrestling match who had no prior experience and you could only teach them 10 moves, what would they be?
What are the 10 best grappling/wrestling moves?
kind of tough, but I'll try to mix in submissions with positional control moves.
1. arm triangle
2. kimura
3. straight armbar
4. sweep from guard (any)
5. americana
6. heel hook
7.guard pass (any)
8. 2 leg takedown
9. rear naked choke
10. triangle
Reply:Submission escapes, mount escapes, side control escapes. You can see where I'm going with this perhaps? Ten moves is maybe enough to keep you from losing, but certainly not enough to win at any level.
EDIT: All these dudes are listing off submissions, which are good to know if you can get set them up, but in order to do that you have to know your sweeps, escapes, guard passes, etc. Position before submission.
Reply:1- gogoplata
2- omaplata
3- triangle choke
4- guard pass(all)
5- kimura
6- knee bar
7- heel hook
8- sweeps from the guard
9- takedowns
10- rear naked choke
Reply:Depending on your positioning (Full Mount, Half-Guard, Side Control, Head/Arm control), using your two feet to lock an arm or your both hands to lock one of your opponents arm would be the most basic of advice. Here would be my Top Ten Most Effective.
1. arm triangle
2. rear naked choke
3. triangle
4. omaplata
5. kimura
6. armbar
7. sweep
8. heel hook
9. americana
10. heel hook
Reply:I'm not even a fighter, but I'm a great wrestler because i know
1. Ankle pick
2. hip throw
3. sprawl.
4. 1 leg takedown
5. double leg takedown
6. some clinch work. like getting in the hooks under their arms.
7.The importance of Side control
i don't think you need 10 things.....anything after that is just FANCY! lol i really can't think of anything else that important.
Reply:1.Sweep Singles/Double Leg
2.Sprawling
3.Basic way to brake close guard
4.Mount Escape
5.Rear Naked Choke Escape
5.Bar from side Control
6.Key lock from side control
7.Oma/Gogo Plata's because they are easy to learn (not to get in a match) and look hella cool
8.Arm Triangle
9.Ankle Lock/ Heel Hook
10. Of course you have to know a triangle choke :)
Reply:position, position position.
Guard, mount, side control, cross body, knee on chest
Bridge and roll, shrimp, a guard pass, trap and roll
Arm bar.
What are the 10 best grappling/wrestling moves?
kind of tough, but I'll try to mix in submissions with positional control moves.
1. arm triangle
2. kimura
3. straight armbar
4. sweep from guard (any)
5. americana
6. heel hook
7.guard pass (any)
8. 2 leg takedown
9. rear naked choke
10. triangle
Reply:Submission escapes, mount escapes, side control escapes. You can see where I'm going with this perhaps? Ten moves is maybe enough to keep you from losing, but certainly not enough to win at any level.
EDIT: All these dudes are listing off submissions, which are good to know if you can get set them up, but in order to do that you have to know your sweeps, escapes, guard passes, etc. Position before submission.
Reply:1- gogoplata
2- omaplata
3- triangle choke
4- guard pass(all)
5- kimura
6- knee bar
7- heel hook
8- sweeps from the guard
9- takedowns
10- rear naked choke
Reply:Depending on your positioning (Full Mount, Half-Guard, Side Control, Head/Arm control), using your two feet to lock an arm or your both hands to lock one of your opponents arm would be the most basic of advice. Here would be my Top Ten Most Effective.
1. arm triangle
2. rear naked choke
3. triangle
4. omaplata
5. kimura
6. armbar
7. sweep
8. heel hook
9. americana
10. heel hook
Reply:I'm not even a fighter, but I'm a great wrestler because i know
1. Ankle pick
2. hip throw
3. sprawl.
4. 1 leg takedown
5. double leg takedown
6. some clinch work. like getting in the hooks under their arms.
7.The importance of Side control
i don't think you need 10 things.....anything after that is just FANCY! lol i really can't think of anything else that important.
Reply:1.Sweep Singles/Double Leg
2.Sprawling
3.Basic way to brake close guard
4.Mount Escape
5.Rear Naked Choke Escape
5.Bar from side Control
6.Key lock from side control
7.Oma/Gogo Plata's because they are easy to learn (not to get in a match) and look hella cool
8.Arm Triangle
9.Ankle Lock/ Heel Hook
10. Of course you have to know a triangle choke :)
Reply:position, position position.
Guard, mount, side control, cross body, knee on chest
Bridge and roll, shrimp, a guard pass, trap and roll
Arm bar.
What is proper etiquette in grappling regarding submissions when you train against a less skilled opponent?
I found that my grappling has over the last year reached a higher level. Alot of the guys I train with I now can submit almost at will. I actually feel a little guilty if I submit them to much. I don't want to discourage them from training. Should I just stop going for submissions all together against less skilled opponents? I tried working off my back from the guard but even there I find it easy to hit a submission now. Of course when some of the higher ranking and strong guys show up I don't have this problem. I work with the toughest guys I can find but sometimes none of them show up on a given day. So what do you do when you have a less skilled opponent?
What is proper etiquette in grappling regarding submissions when you train against a less skilled opponent?
The first time you spar with them, do your thing. If you submit them easy, tell them what they did to open themselves up for the submission. Work on defending a specific technique. See if they can make it harder the next time. Don't make it any easier. See if they can adapt after you explain why it was so easy for you.
Or, keep switching it up. Go for the submission, but just before locking it in, switch up and go for something else. For example, they open up for the armbar, so you take it. But before locking it in, you spin around and try to take their back. Keep moving from one technique to the next. You don't have to lock it in if you know it's there for the taking.
Those are just two options I have used and have had used on me.
Good luck.
Reply:The proper thing to do with a less skilled person is to help them work on their technique. I'm not saying work not to work on yours also, just not as much emphasis. You have to look at who your partner is and adjust your game plan accordingly. That is the main reason for the belt ranking system. An easy way to judge experience. You have to take care of your partner. Learning and teaching is different than hurting at will.
Reply:help them, and help yourself work on things that are more difficult for you against the more skilled guys.
You can help instruct them (personally I don't take instruction well from those who are not the instructor as I've found thier interpretation of what was taugh to them is not always reliable as people tend to "go thier own way" sometimes, which is why I do better in small classes) by going easier on them and letting them work, don't give anything to them, make them work harder at it and make them pay for thier mistakes.
If you are too rough to the point where it is no longer training and just plain embarrasment, no one will want to play with you any more.
Reply:I find that often as well. I generally don't feel guilty at all. If they are higher ranked, I don't mind showing them up sometimes, it shows to my sensei my level of skill is increasing and shows the Uki where they need to practice. If it is a younger Uki regardless of rank. I will talk to them while we are working out and say ok now that we are here what would you do next. Or if I do this you should do this. Or as I used to be a very competative fighter I have developed easier or more efficient ways to do certain techniques as alot of holds are too hard to get in a real fight. So I will suggest an alternative way of doing the same technique they are trying to make it easier for them. I would suggest if you find your Uki are too easy to control during ni waza randori then move to higher ranked or heavier people. I like working out with guys who are 50lbs heavier than me. Even if I am more skilled at least I get more of a work out and am forced to use better technique to get the hold. Try finding heavier or taller guys to work out with that alone will create more of a challenge for you. Plus give you an opportunity to help them learn as well. Part of martial arts is to learn from your peers. So I don't agree with people who refuse to listen or take advise from a partner based on them not being their sensei. Anyone can teach or help anyone else learn new or better their skills. Just because a person is the Sensei or a black belt does not mean they are proficient at every technique. I have a Sensei who is a great at the throwing techniques and although he has good knowlege of all of the grappling techniqes he is not a very good ground fighter. So he relies on students to help him remember how to do something or to show it more effectively.
So basically either start going on nights where the more advanced guys are training, train with bigger guys. And maybe grade for your next belt, although rank should not effect who you can train with.
Reply:Agree with above answers - help the less competant and learn from the experience, you will see your skills from a whole new angle. Good luck
Reply:Help the other guys improve their game.
Choose to only tap your oponent out with a certain submission, isolate a certain limb of theirs and work on that. Put yourself in a certain position and work from there. Maybe let them get a submission on and then work your escapes.
Reply:Okay it sounds like you have your attacks/offense down but you need to work on your defense. Let your opponent get close to a submission and try to counter it. Just because you can take those in your gym does not mean you will do well in a tournament.
Also help the others improve so that they do start to pose a challenge. When you work against stronger and bigger guys just focus on proper execution of a technique and counter attacks.
You may also want to look at other gyms to train at so you can improve more.
Reply:If you have a less skilled opponent, you should help them build up their own skills. The only way to get better yourself is to train with someone better than you, but helping others will help you become a better teacher yourself (if that is the direction you want to go).
Reply:Fantastic answers here. I agree with them. One thing I do is instead of using all my techniques, I pick one particular submission to work on. For example the other day I was practicing with a less experience partner, so I decided to just submit him using the key lock. No other submission but that one. So I had to work harder to get that submission. Everytime change to another submission and just get that one. This is specially good practice for techniques you are not so good with or that you dont like. Good luck.
Reply:I've been an elementary teacher for over seven years. I don't believe in making things too easy for those who are serious about it. But for those who are weak in spirit, go easy on them. But for those who are hungry for more, let them know the truth. You do them a great disservice to hold back on those who want it. Like me. I want the heat on!!! I don't like it, when my teacher's are easy on me!!
Reply:Something different you could do is allow yourself to be put in a submission or put in a bad position(i.e.side control, back, or mount) and practice your submission escapes and regain your good position. This will allow the less skilled an opportunity to actually practice what they are learning and keep from getting discouraged. Also share your knowledge with your fellow training partners so everybody can improve at the same time ascending the level at your academy. Point out to the less skilled the mistakes that they are making and teach them good technique. It's not all about slamming guys around and putting them in 10 submissions in a row but a group learning together. Aloha
What is proper etiquette in grappling regarding submissions when you train against a less skilled opponent?
The first time you spar with them, do your thing. If you submit them easy, tell them what they did to open themselves up for the submission. Work on defending a specific technique. See if they can make it harder the next time. Don't make it any easier. See if they can adapt after you explain why it was so easy for you.
Or, keep switching it up. Go for the submission, but just before locking it in, switch up and go for something else. For example, they open up for the armbar, so you take it. But before locking it in, you spin around and try to take their back. Keep moving from one technique to the next. You don't have to lock it in if you know it's there for the taking.
Those are just two options I have used and have had used on me.
Good luck.
Reply:The proper thing to do with a less skilled person is to help them work on their technique. I'm not saying work not to work on yours also, just not as much emphasis. You have to look at who your partner is and adjust your game plan accordingly. That is the main reason for the belt ranking system. An easy way to judge experience. You have to take care of your partner. Learning and teaching is different than hurting at will.
Reply:help them, and help yourself work on things that are more difficult for you against the more skilled guys.
You can help instruct them (personally I don't take instruction well from those who are not the instructor as I've found thier interpretation of what was taugh to them is not always reliable as people tend to "go thier own way" sometimes, which is why I do better in small classes) by going easier on them and letting them work, don't give anything to them, make them work harder at it and make them pay for thier mistakes.
If you are too rough to the point where it is no longer training and just plain embarrasment, no one will want to play with you any more.
Reply:I find that often as well. I generally don't feel guilty at all. If they are higher ranked, I don't mind showing them up sometimes, it shows to my sensei my level of skill is increasing and shows the Uki where they need to practice. If it is a younger Uki regardless of rank. I will talk to them while we are working out and say ok now that we are here what would you do next. Or if I do this you should do this. Or as I used to be a very competative fighter I have developed easier or more efficient ways to do certain techniques as alot of holds are too hard to get in a real fight. So I will suggest an alternative way of doing the same technique they are trying to make it easier for them. I would suggest if you find your Uki are too easy to control during ni waza randori then move to higher ranked or heavier people. I like working out with guys who are 50lbs heavier than me. Even if I am more skilled at least I get more of a work out and am forced to use better technique to get the hold. Try finding heavier or taller guys to work out with that alone will create more of a challenge for you. Plus give you an opportunity to help them learn as well. Part of martial arts is to learn from your peers. So I don't agree with people who refuse to listen or take advise from a partner based on them not being their sensei. Anyone can teach or help anyone else learn new or better their skills. Just because a person is the Sensei or a black belt does not mean they are proficient at every technique. I have a Sensei who is a great at the throwing techniques and although he has good knowlege of all of the grappling techniqes he is not a very good ground fighter. So he relies on students to help him remember how to do something or to show it more effectively.
So basically either start going on nights where the more advanced guys are training, train with bigger guys. And maybe grade for your next belt, although rank should not effect who you can train with.
Reply:Agree with above answers - help the less competant and learn from the experience, you will see your skills from a whole new angle. Good luck
Reply:Help the other guys improve their game.
Choose to only tap your oponent out with a certain submission, isolate a certain limb of theirs and work on that. Put yourself in a certain position and work from there. Maybe let them get a submission on and then work your escapes.
Reply:Okay it sounds like you have your attacks/offense down but you need to work on your defense. Let your opponent get close to a submission and try to counter it. Just because you can take those in your gym does not mean you will do well in a tournament.
Also help the others improve so that they do start to pose a challenge. When you work against stronger and bigger guys just focus on proper execution of a technique and counter attacks.
You may also want to look at other gyms to train at so you can improve more.
Reply:If you have a less skilled opponent, you should help them build up their own skills. The only way to get better yourself is to train with someone better than you, but helping others will help you become a better teacher yourself (if that is the direction you want to go).
Reply:Fantastic answers here. I agree with them. One thing I do is instead of using all my techniques, I pick one particular submission to work on. For example the other day I was practicing with a less experience partner, so I decided to just submit him using the key lock. No other submission but that one. So I had to work harder to get that submission. Everytime change to another submission and just get that one. This is specially good practice for techniques you are not so good with or that you dont like. Good luck.
Reply:I've been an elementary teacher for over seven years. I don't believe in making things too easy for those who are serious about it. But for those who are weak in spirit, go easy on them. But for those who are hungry for more, let them know the truth. You do them a great disservice to hold back on those who want it. Like me. I want the heat on!!! I don't like it, when my teacher's are easy on me!!
Reply:Something different you could do is allow yourself to be put in a submission or put in a bad position(i.e.side control, back, or mount) and practice your submission escapes and regain your good position. This will allow the less skilled an opportunity to actually practice what they are learning and keep from getting discouraged. Also share your knowledge with your fellow training partners so everybody can improve at the same time ascending the level at your academy. Point out to the less skilled the mistakes that they are making and teach them good technique. It's not all about slamming guys around and putting them in 10 submissions in a row but a group learning together. Aloha
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