A martial arts question?

I'd like to take ju jutsu... but I'm not sure what you do


I want to do a martial arts that incorporates:


grappling


punching


kicking


throws


submission


weapons training


multiple opponent training


ground fighting


board and brick breaking





and i want to gain:


speed


agility


flexibility


the confidence i may be able to win any fight

A martial arts question?
Jeet Kune Do concepts, the best of all worlds.
Reply:jiu jitsu is ******* great. But to incorperate all that, look into the mma or mixed martial arts.
Reply:So what's your question...you've already decided to take Ju Jitsu. But if you want to win every fight...become a Lawyer, it pays more.
Reply:The best martial art for you is Jeet Kune Do, started by Bruce Lee. Yet it is very hard to find a school that teaches it. I'd say any form of kung fu is more diverse. Karate is the most common art in west as far as schools go but very limited towards the skills you listed.
Reply:I second what Mr Jesse said, but i would say Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do, not Jeet Kune Do. Jun Fan are the exact proper teachings of Bruce Lee, best all around fighting concept. Alot of jkd schools these days have been modifed by the teachers. So i reconmend Jun Fan JKD
Reply:Well first you must be willing to go all or nothing if your looking to get into the ring its harder then it look :)...But I think the best thing to do is find a MMA school I have seen schools that will teach Muay thai thats thailand kickboxing and JuiJitsu and some boxing...But finding a school with weapons might be hard to find if you wont to do MMA (Mix Martial Arts) ;) Because that will depend on the teacher and if he or she has a weapon background. And speed, run lots, bike, swim for conditioning, it takes ALOT to be a "all round fighter" but I'd say- Muay Thai 4 stand up, Japanese Jiu Jitsu 4 Multiple opponent training, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 4 ground, %26amp; Shoalin Kung fu 4 Weapons :)
Reply:Forget about these and go to an MMA school.





weapons training


multiple opponent training


board and brick breaking
Reply:well, jui jitsu should have all that, except for board and brick breaking.
Reply:MMA is stupid... Pretty much all MMA schools that I have seens are just Let's learn Mui Thai, BJJ and maybe some freestyle karate, kickboxing or wrestling.





How about just training a system that is designed for real world combat. Any decent system will teach all of the skills that you mentioned.





Bruce Lee invented JKD to fill the gaps in his knowledge not because the system that he learnt was incomplete but because his knowledge of the system was incomplete. He learnt under half of the Wing Chun system. Yip Man refused to teach him anymore because of his antics in Hing Kong and asked Wong Shong Long to teach him instead and then when he left for America and taught white people he was refused the rest of the system plain and simple. JKD isn't even a system anyway, to get a complete understanding and the most out of that philosophy learn Wing Chun then read the bloody book.





Anyway, please, please, do some research on your own into what each style will teach you, go do some classes, and never ever pick a system that you can't deal with anything that you can think of. If a style spends most of it's time on the floor it's probably a waste of time. If it spends all of it's time on it's feet then it's probably a waste of your time but less so, try to find something that trains everything.





Personally I train Wing Chun and I have not come accross a style that the system doen't have an answer for, there have been plenty of times when I have been bested by a more skilled fighter, however I have seen what could have been done to prevent these things from happening again, and have worked on fixing those problems.





People that think or say that they are undefeatable are idiots and anyone that believes that any one system or combination of systems is the only way to be sucessful based on a sport are idiots too.
Reply:You said something I have to respond to. The confidence that you may be able to win any fight.





There is no such thing. Any great fighter will tell you, that is worth their salt anyway, that fighting is a game of chance. We train our entire lives, become smarter, faster, stronger, more skilled, more experienced, fill in all the gaps in our training, spend countless hours, days, weeks, years preparing and.... On any given day a five year old could best me. I accepted this fact a long time ago. I love martial arts, I've devoted my life to it. I'm confident in the work I've put in, but I'm also aware that winning in combat has nothing to do with all of that. A completely untrained person could survive against tremendous odds, while a totally prepared and trained person could get smacked once and end up with a concussion or in a coma. The confidence to win doesn't come from training, it comes from character. Someone who is above reproach who knows where they stand and what they stand for has a faith in the knowlege they are standing for what is right and good. That person will always see victory. Not because they are better but because "the spirit of the thing itself" is working for them, not against them. That term "spirit of the thing itself" is not a religous term either. It's found in some older schools of thought and training. Since any conflict is a battle of will, then the person who faulters in spirit first is most open to attack. You want to be victorious always, have a spirit, a heart, a moral center that cannot be blemished, that cannot be attacked, and that maintains it's course.





Everything else you described up there is just training methods, different approaches to a common place. There all just as good as another. You can learn a little of everything, or all of one thing and you will be just as successful. Learn a hard lesson first about what martial arts is. Don't reach for the stars or even try to hold one, just find your place underneath them, and find the joy that comes from serving humbly in that place.
Reply:/I take threee martial arts and yoga, and I don't get all of what you ask. Try taking multiple martial arts. If you are interested, the ones that I take are called: capoeira, shaolin-do, and ki-aikido.





Shaolin-do offers to train its students a a multitude of weaponry, and off er punch, kicking and some grappling. There are many exercieses in this marial arts school that will improve your speed, agility, and flexibility. It's only about 100$ monthly for unlimited access to all weekly shaolin kung fu and tai chi classes. The curriculum is solid, good teachers, and great people.





Capoeira is the brazilian dance martial art developed by slaves. It is very fun and you learn ground fighting, kicking, punching, and acrobatic attacks. There are videos on you tube on capeoira. PAy attention to videos with bahia, batuque, or mestre (master) in the name or description. Be aware that even the most obscure attack from a skilled capoeira practitioner hurts like heck(experience)





Ki-aikido teaches throws, and submission by pins and locks. I have had weird experiences in this martial art. Some of the higher ranking practitioners can throw me without touching me. You learn to easily throw people who are several heads taller than you and with relative ease. You also get multiple opponent training as well. You also learn to use a katana and staff.
Reply:Aki-jutsu which is a combination of aikido, jujutsu and okinawa te.
Reply:Keep it simple. Visit schools near you and see what they offer. Not one thing is going to provide everything you are looking for. You may need to go to more than one instructor to learn everything you require, but there are academy type Martial Art Schools that have different types of instructors who come together from different styles to unify a group of Martial Arts. There is such a school in Selmer, TN. MMA schools do sort of the same thing but most don't use a traditional ranking structure. Like I mentioned before just vist all the schools in your driving range and go speak with the instructors keep in mind any instructor who will not answer your questions with an open mind is probably not the one for even though it's a style you might want to take.


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